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Bus beheader could be out in 5 years

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Bus beheader could be out in 5 years


Law & Order | 207117 hits | Mar 16 1:49 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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WINNIPEG � Tim McLean's mother says she's saddened, but not surprised, to hear that her son's killer could be released from a secured mental health centre within five years.

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  1. by Choban
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:48 pm
    NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.

  2. by avatar martin14
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:53 pm
    "Choban" said
    NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.



    5 years for a murder.. perfect. :roll:

  3. by avatar bootlegga
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:59 pm
    Now, now, let's not get our panties in a knot over 'could be'

    making progress more quickly than is considered usual and could be released within five years.

  4. by Choban
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:00 pm
    "martin14" said
    NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.



    5 years for a murder.. perfect. :roll:

    The story claims most NCR murders usually end in 3 years served, 3 years of supposid therapy to make these people mentaly stable enough to let them back into society!
    Heres my question, if therapy can be so F$%&ing effective why are there ANY NCR verdicts, this piece of crap was diagnosed prior to murdering, and did not keep on his meds or up with his therapy, why then could they not lock him up as a danger to himself and those around him which would have prevented this senceless act.

  5. by Choban
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:02 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    Now, now, let's not get our panties in a knot over 'could be'

    making progress more quickly than is considered usual and could be released within five years.


    Could be released turns into released really quickly when it comes to Canadian justice and the mental health MCR verdicts. The article states that the majority serve 3 years.

  6. by avatar poquas
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:13 pm
    This is at least the second time this has been raised. �Could be� is a long way from �will be�. Especially in this case!

    Even a life sentence for murder only "offers" the possibility of parole in 25 years, not a guarantee that it will occur.

    I don't believe for a second this guy is going to be on the street in the near future.

  7. by avatar fifeboy
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:59 pm
    "poquas" said
    This is at least the second time this has been raised. �Could be� is a long way from �will be�. Especially in this case!

    Even a life sentence for murder only "offers" the possibility of parole in 25 years, not a guarantee that it will occur.

    I don't believe for a second this guy is going to be on the street in the near future.
    It's my understanding, and I may be wrong here, that someone who is held NCR can spend the rest of his life in a max. security mental health facility. Time will tell and it does not seem right to be shouting the odds at this time.

  8. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:43 pm
    I can't believe that a progressive and tolerant society would want a mentally ill person imprisoned for acts that were no fault of his own. Society and the health care system failed this poor man by not helping him with his mental illness.

    XD

  9. by avatar fifeboy
    Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:14 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    I can't believe that a progressive and tolerant society would want a mentally ill person imprisoned for acts that were no fault of his own. Society and the health care system failed this poor man by not helping him with his mental illness.

    XD

    And ironically, you are exactly right!

  10. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:47 am
    "fifeboy" said
    I can't believe that a progressive and tolerant society would want a mentally ill person imprisoned for acts that were no fault of his own. Society and the health care system failed this poor man by not helping him with his mental illness.

    XD

    And ironically, you are exactly right!


    Your absolutely right. The sick fuck should have been locked up permanently, long before he did his best Henry the VIII impersonation.

    Another disaster caused by a system that's to cheap and spineless to keep these physcopaths in institutions where they belong. :evil:

  11. by avatar Public_Domain
    Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:17 am
    :|

  12. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:30 am
    During his trasition from incarceration to full parole, he should live with those who decide he is safe enough to release. It demonstrates to society how secure they are in their descisions. Li wouldn't be forced to do anything too strenuous, just mind their children and polish their cutlery.

  13. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:44 am
    "Choban" said
    NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.



    5 years for a murder.. perfect. :roll:

    The story claims most NCR murders usually end in 3 years served, 3 years of supposid therapy to make these people mentaly stable enough to let them back into society!
    Heres my question, if therapy can be so F$%&ing effective why are there ANY NCR verdicts, this piece of crap was diagnosed prior to murdering, and did not keep on his meds or up with his therapy, why then could they not lock him up as a danger to himself and those around him which would have prevented this senceless act.

    With modern drugs, it doesn't take much at all to "cure" some of these guys. The problem is keeping them cured. We have no effective monitoring system for these guys, so they get out, think they're heallluuuuddd and stop taking their meds, only to cycle back again. People like this should be on lifetime parole, very closely supervised with a clear treatment plan. Any deviation, and they should be taken back into custody. But that would cost money, which we don't like to spend - better to take our chances, I guess, and hope it's not us that's his next victim.

  14. by avatar martin14
    Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:33 am
    "andyt" said


    With modern drugs, it doesn't take much at all to "cure" some of these guys. The problem is keeping them cured. We have no effective monitoring system for these guys, so they get out, think they're heallluuuuddd and stop taking their meds, only to cycle back again. People like this should be on lifetime parole, very closely supervised with a clear treatment plan. Any deviation, and they should be taken back into custody. But that would cost money, which we don't like to spend - better to take our chances, I guess, and hope it's not us that's his next victim.



    Vince already did this before the murder.



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