[Newsbot]

Title: Bus beheader could be out in 5 years
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2010-03-16 13:49:01
Canadian

[Choban]

NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.

[martin14]

Choban Choban:

NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.

5 years for a murder.. perfect.

[bootlegga]

Now, now, let's not get our panties in a knot over 'could be'

$1:

making progress more quickly than is considered usual and could be released within five years.

[Choban]

martin14 martin14:

Choban Choban:

NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.

5 years for a murder.. perfect.

The story claims most NCR murders usually end in 3 years served, 3 years of supposid therapy to make these people mentaly stable enough to let them back into society!
Heres my question, if therapy can be so F$%&ing effective why are there ANY NCR verdicts, this piece of crap was diagnosed prior to murdering, and did not keep on his meds or up with his therapy, why then could they not lock him up as a danger to himself and those around him which would have prevented this senceless act.

[Choban]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Now, now, let's not get our panties in a knot over 'could be'

$1:

making progress more quickly than is considered usual and could be released within five years.

Could be released turns into released really quickly when it comes to Canadian justice and the mental health MCR verdicts. The article states that the majority serve 3 years.

[poquas]

This is at least the second time this has been raised. “Could be” is a long way from “will be”. Especially in this case!

Even a life sentence for murder only "offers" the possibility of parole in 25 years, not a guarantee that it will occur.

I don't believe for a second this guy is going to be on the street in the near future.

[fifeboy]

poquas poquas:

This is at least the second time this has been raised. “Could be” is a long way from “will be”. Especially in this case!

Even a life sentence for murder only "offers" the possibility of parole in 25 years, not a guarantee that it will occur.

I don't believe for a second this guy is going to be on the street in the near future.

It's my understanding, and I may be wrong here, that someone who is held NCR can spend the rest of his life in a max. security mental health facility. Time will tell and it does not seem right to be shouting the odds at this time.

[BartSimpson]

I can't believe that a progressive and tolerant society would want a mentally ill person imprisoned for acts that were no fault of his own. Society and the health care system failed this poor man by not helping him with his mental illness.

[fifeboy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I can't believe that a progressive and tolerant society would want a mentally ill person imprisoned for acts that were no fault of his own. Society and the health care system failed this poor man by not helping him with his mental illness.

And ironically, you are exactly right!

[Freakinoldguy]

fifeboy fifeboy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I can't believe that a progressive and tolerant society would want a mentally ill person imprisoned for acts that were no fault of his own. Society and the health care system failed this poor man by not helping him with his mental illness.

And ironically, you are exactly right!

Your absolutely right. The sick fuck should have been locked up permanently, long before he did his best Henry the VIII impersonation.

Another disaster caused by a system that's to cheap and spineless to keep these physcopaths in institutions where they belong.

[Public_Domain]

[ShepherdsDog]

During his trasition from incarceration to full parole, he should live with those who decide he is safe enough to release. It demonstrates to society how secure they are in their descisions. Li wouldn't be forced to do anything too strenuous, just mind their children and polish their cutlery.

[andyt]

Choban Choban:

martin14 martin14:

Choban Choban:

NO surprise here, this guy SHOULD be locked away forever but won't be.

5 years for a murder.. perfect.

The story claims most NCR murders usually end in 3 years served, 3 years of supposid therapy to make these people mentaly stable enough to let them back into society!
Heres my question, if therapy can be so F$%&ing effective why are there ANY NCR verdicts, this piece of crap was diagnosed prior to murdering, and did not keep on his meds or up with his therapy, why then could they not lock him up as a danger to himself and those around him which would have prevented this senceless act.

With modern drugs, it doesn't take much at all to "cure" some of these guys. The problem is keeping them cured. We have no effective monitoring system for these guys, so they get out, think they're heallluuuuddd and stop taking their meds, only to cycle back again. People like this should be on lifetime parole, very closely supervised with a clear treatment plan. Any deviation, and they should be taken back into custody. But that would cost money, which we don't like to spend - better to take our chances, I guess, and hope it's not us that's his next victim.

[martin14]

andyt andyt:

With modern drugs, it doesn't take much at all to "cure" some of these guys. The problem is keeping them cured. We have no effective monitoring system for these guys, so they get out, think they're heallluuuuddd and stop taking their meds, only to cycle back again. People like this should be on lifetime parole, very closely supervised with a clear treatment plan. Any deviation, and they should be taken back into custody. But that would cost money, which we don't like to spend - better to take our chances, I guess, and hope it's not us that's his next victim.

Vince already did this before the murder.