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What Makes People Susceptible To Pseudo-Profoun

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What Makes People Susceptible To Pseudo-Profound 'Baloney'' : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture


World | 206752 hits | Dec 07 7:26 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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People who rated real motivational quotes as more profound than pseudo-profound ones in a study tended to be analytic thinkers. But it doesn't mean the others aren't intelligent, says Tania Lombrozo.

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:29 pm
    I'm detecting some baloney in the study itself. Profundity is subjective, just because something is labelled a motivational statement doesn't make it profound. These are not statements that can be scientifically verified, so who's to say what's more profound?

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:42 pm
    Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit is a pretty handy bit of wisdom:


    1.Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the �facts.�

    2.Encourage substantive debate on the evidence by knowledgeable proponents of all points of view.

    3.Arguments from authority carry little weight � �authorities� have made mistakes in the past. They will do so again in the future. Perhaps a better way to say it is that in science there are no authorities; at most, there are experts.

    4.Spin more than one hypothesis. If there�s something to be explained, think of all the different ways in which it could be explained. Then think of tests by which you might systematically disprove each of the alternatives. What survives, the hypothesis that resists disproof in this Darwinian selection among �multiple working hypotheses,� has a much better chance of being the right answer than if you had simply run with the first idea that caught your fancy.

    5.Try not to get overly attached to a hypothesis just because it�s yours. It�s only a way station in the pursuit of knowledge. Ask yourself why you like the idea. Compare it fairly with the alternatives. See if you can find reasons for rejecting it. If you don�t, others will.

    6.Quantify. If whatever it is you�re explaining has some measure, some numerical quantity attached to it, you�ll be much better able to discriminate among competing hypotheses. What is vague and qualitative is open to many explanations. Of course there are truths to be sought in the many qualitative issues we are obliged to confront, but finding them is more challenging.

    7.If there�s a chain of argument, every link in the chain must work (including the premise) � not just most of them.

    8.Occam�s Razor. This convenient rule-of-thumb urges us when faced with two hypotheses that explain the data equally well to choose the simpler.

    9.Always ask whether the hypothesis can be, at least in principle, falsified. Propositions that are untestable, unfalsifiable are not worth much. Consider the grand idea that our Universe and everything in it is just an elementary particle � an electron, say � in a much bigger Cosmos. But if we can never acquire information from outside our Universe, is not the idea incapable of disproof? You must be able to check assertions out. Inveterate skeptics must be given the chance to follow your reasoning, to duplicate your experiments and see if they get the same result.


    No end of fad science would fail to withstand the measure and scrutiny of this set of filters.

    Thanks for the heads-up on this one, Andy, I really did learn something new today!

  3. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
    "andyt" said
    These are not statements that can be scientifically verified, so who's to say what's more profound?


    The statements are randomly generated by computer. I don't think the algorithm is sufficiently complex to understand what the words actually mean.

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:51 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    These are not statements that can be scientifically verified, so who's to say what's more profound?


    The statements are randomly generated by computer. I don't think the algorithm is sufficiently complex to understand what the words actually mean.

    I don't think Deepak Chopra is sufficiently complex to understand what Deepak Chopra's words mean. :wink:

  5. by avatar raydan
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:06 pm
    What Makes People Susceptible To Pseudo-Profound 'Baloney'?


    Ask FiddleDog. :wink:

  6. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:50 pm
    "raydan" said
    What Makes People Susceptible To Pseudo-Profound 'Baloney'?


    Ask FiddleDog. :wink:


    And I'll send you to Ray. He'll show you some boobs or something.

    And no, I don't mean he'll just bring Andy with him. :wink:

  7. by avatar raydan
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:52 pm
    You see, you were susceptible to my Pseudo-Profound 'Baloney'. :lol:

  8. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:55 pm
    "raydan" said
    You see, you were susceptible to my Pseudo-Profound 'Baloney'. :lol:


    Why is it everytime you speak I hear something that sounds like it's meant to be dirty? :wink:

    Training? Accuracy?

  9. by avatar raydan
    Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:58 pm
    With the French accent, everything sounds dirty.

  10. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:46 pm
    "raydan" said
    With the French accent, everything sounds dirty.





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