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Baloney Meter: Would scrapping F-35 plan 'crate

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Baloney Meter: Would scrapping F-35 plan 'crater' Canada's aerospace industry'


Political | 207018 hits | Sep 22 7:14 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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Conservative Leader Stephen Harper says the Liberal plan to exclude the F-35 from the bidding process to replace Canada's aging fleet of CF-18s would "crater" the aerospace industry. Would it?

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:49 pm
    For that reason, Harper's claim earns the rating of "a lot of baloney."


    How dare you post that here. You're going to get the CKA bobble heads (ie those with Harper Adoration Syndrome) a bobbin.

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:42 pm
    How would cancelling the purchase of a flying turd sandwich cause any harm to Canada's aerospace industry?

  3. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:45 pm
    Because we've already been involved in the development of the plane, ie work done in Canada. As the article points out, tho, we'd lose those jobs if we don't sign on the F35, but make similar contracts for any other plane we buy - ie we'd replace the jobs lost.

  4. by OnTheIce
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:55 pm
    It's "a lot of baloney" for the CBC to leave out key aspects of how the F-35 program came to fruition.

  5. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:27 pm
    The baloney meter is an examination of Harper's claim that not buying it would crater the Canadian aerospace industry. If the Liberals started us on the program (and made sure we were not committed to buying any, good for them) Harper sure seems to have taken it on tho. He has ownership of it now.

    Mulcair has got the best policy on this - put it out to competitive bidding, then decide.

  6. by OnTheIce
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:48 pm
    "andyt" said
    The baloney meter is an examination of Harper's claim that not buying it would crater the Canadian aerospace industry. If the Liberals started us on the program (and made sure we were not committed to buying any, good for them) Harper sure seems to have taken it on tho. He has ownership of it now.

    Mulcair has got the best policy on this - put it out to competitive bidding, then decide.


    Agreed, but the story isn't told. When you lead a story with "The Facts" is should include the entire story, not just the parts of the story that make for a better article.

    I think most agree that we need new aircraft. Putting this back on the shelf to look for other options will just further delay the inevitable.

  7. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:52 pm
    We don't need the F35. Harper has also put this on the shelf, after the embarrassing report from the PBO. We're not that much in a rush that we have to buy an inferior aircraft at an inflated price.

    The baloney meter isn't about the whole story, but a specific claim being made - that not buying the F35 will crater the industry. Pure bullshit

    Nice try at deflection on your part tho. After 9 years, however, "Liberals did it toooo" wears a little thin. Try something else.

  8. by avatar Tyler_1
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:01 pm
    Happy Tunesday Andy. :D

  9. by OnTheIce
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:36 pm
    "andyt" said
    We don't need the F35. Harper has also put this on the shelf, after the embarrassing report from the PBO. We're not that much in a rush that we have to buy an inferior aircraft at an inflated price.

    The baloney meter isn't about the whole story, but a specific claim being made - that not buying the F35 will crater the industry. Pure bullshit

    Nice try at deflection on your part tho. After 9 years, however, "Liberals did it toooo" wears a little thin. Try something else.


    Here's how it'll break down...

    Harper will pull the plug on the F-35 program and you will rejoice!

    Then, when parts of the aerospace sector get hit while we take away 10.5 billion in revenue and companies like Lockhead take their business to other countries, you and the rest of the tard-mullets will cry "Look, he's ruining our aerospace industry!".

  10. by Lemmy
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:40 pm
    You can't "crater" an industry that doesn't exist. Dief saw to it that we'd have no aerospace industry when Ike told him that was the way it was going to be back in '58.

  11. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:24 pm
    Putting all of our eggs in one basket craters what is left of Canada's once proud aerospace industry.

    The F-35 is a piece of junk.

    That can't be good for business, over the long run.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:51 pm
    Most of our aerospace industry is commercial.

    Any plane we buy will have the same conditions that we get jobs in return for the purchase.

    Mulcair has the right idea - open competition, choose the best deal for Canada. How an "economist" like Harper doesn't get that is beyond me.

  13. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:05 am
    "andyt" said
    Most of our aerospace industry is commercial.

    Any plane we buy will have the same conditions that we get jobs in return for the purchase.

    Mulcair has the right idea - open competition, choose the best deal for Canada. How an "economist" like Harper doesn't get that is beyond me.

    That "fix" was in without tendering or any visible process at all. The whole thing stinks of corruption. What "goodies" were distributed in exchange for "ask no questions"?

    There are mega-billions around this deal. Anything is possible.

  14. by avatar CDN_PATRIOT
    Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:05 am
    SuperHornets. 'Nuff said.


    -J.



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