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Canada, U.S. unveil new border deals

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Canada, U.S. unveil new border deals


Political | 206995 hits | Dec 07 2:54 pm | Posted by: Strutz
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Canada and the United States unveiled two plans Wednesday intended to tighten border security while speeding up travel and trade and aligning regulations between the two countries.

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  1. by avatar GreenTiger
    Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:31 am
    Anything that opens up the border more is a good.


    I think the concern over Cyber security is a good one. The world is still full of unfriendly people.

  2. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:39 am
    "GreenTiger" said
    Anything that opens up the border more is a good.


    I think the concern over Cyber security is a good one. The world is still full of unfriendly people.


    The most controversial part of the 62-point deal -- a plan to exchange entry information for all people crossing the Canada-U.S. border, which would serve as a record of exit from the other country -- is not expected until 2014.



    Yeah... or not. Sometimes whoring ourselves out means we get fucked. Funny that.

  3. by eureka
    Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:25 pm
    There is an excellent rundown of this in today's Toronto Star by Thomas Walkom. It is a complete sellout of Canadian Sovereignty if he is accurate.

  4. by avatar Dragon-Dancer
    Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:26 pm
    While we still don't specifically know what they will want shared I'm skeptical that it will not include access to confidential information. This government hasn't exactly been known to champion a citizen's right to privacy in it's dealings. I'll wait and see.

  5. by avatar DanSC
    Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:49 pm
    Some are thinking about making border crossers fill out online forms.



    /Not really.

  6. by avatar Proculation
    Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:54 pm
    "Dragon-Dancer" said
    While we still don't specifically know what they will want shared I'm skeptical that it will not include access to confidential information. This government hasn't exactly been known to champion a citizen's right to privacy in it's dealings. I'll wait and see.

    Like the right to privacy for gun owners ?

  7. by Lemmy
    Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:51 am
    Sovereignty for sale.

  8. by avatar Dragon-Dancer
    Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:10 pm
    "Proculation" said
    While we still don't specifically know what they will want shared I'm skeptical that it will not include access to confidential information. This government hasn't exactly been known to champion a citizen's right to privacy in it's dealings. I'll wait and see.

    Like the right to privacy for gun owners ?

    Gun owners have no such right. Firearms must be registered by law.

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:09 pm
    "GreenTiger" said
    I think the concern over Cyber security is a good one. The world is still full of unfriendly people.


    True. But the moderators on CKA do a stand up job of banning them! :lol:

  10. by avatar andyt
    Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:12 pm
    At one time I would have been all for this, was basically for a US/Canada union. Now, I think we should copy the 'Mericuns and build a huge fence along the border. Or just let them do it, since they push for it so much. Anything to keep that bad craziness down there from infecting us more than it has already.

  11. by DNOOR
    Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:49 am
    Hey everyone, I'm super new to this website don't know if i'm posting this in the right place and what not; but i have a very IMPORTANT QUESTION to ask you guys.So... About the summertime of last year, i went to the states for a huge convention my business was hosting, and it took awhile while i got across the border :s. So when I was up to talk to the border crossing guard, the guard asked me all the normal questions and i stumbled on the one "why are you going to the states?". I started off saying that i'm going for a convention that my company is hosting and so on. AND THEN, LONG STORY SHORT, for some reason, i said that "i was getting paid while I was the convention" (FOR NO REASON I LIED TO THEM!!!). It wasn't too long before he told me that "i wasn't allow to do that (get paid in the states). After a 2 hr waiting and questioning they let me go on to the convention. Although I admitted that it was all my fault I'm just super worried about my future situations when I have to cross the us-canada border.

    NOW, its been just over a year and I have yet to go back to the states because i'm scared that they will give me a hard time. I was contemplating If I should just try crossing the border by myself to see if they will give me a hard time or not OR if i should just wait until the next i go with my friends and see if I get into a hard time then???

    WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST THING I SHOULD DO???

  12. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:25 pm
    "DNOOR" said

    WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST THING I SHOULD DO???


    Firstly, I'd roll a few hundred in small bills and put them in a condom and swallow it. It will be useful to have cash on 'the inside' where you are going. Be sure to keep a credit card with a high limit inside your shoe, for when the guards steal your wallet contents, and just in case you don't get sent for interrogation.

    Eat lots on th eplane, bring snacks. It'll make you look superhuman when they put you in a cell for 3 days with no food and water. Also be sure to evacuate your colon before landing, just to make the cavity search easier for them.

    Oh, and don't post in all caps. Have a nice day.

  13. by DNOOR
    Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:32 pm
    anyone with a SERIOUS answer?

  14. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:38 pm
    Depends on if you have a serious question other than "I'm scared of the big bad 'mericans".



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