If you visit Ireland after October, you'd better watch what you say about God.
A blasphemous slip of the tongue could cost you 25,000 euros under revamped legislation that will soon be signed into law.
Nutbars are everywhere. Every religious group, political group, every job, and every country. A step backward in my opinion.
That's not just a step, that's a giant leap! I'm constantly amazed at how the fundamentalists of all persuasions get this kind of crap though the processes without at least on clear thinking individual derailing it.
It may end up being law, but I'll bet millions it would be overturned on its first court challenge. It's unfortunate it got that far though.
Blasphemy is an act of challenging or offending a religious belief.
Labelling it as a law by religous extremists is misleading, no self righteous religous extremist would ever want a law passed that banned the blashpeming of the other guy's religion.
So unless I'm reading the article wrong it's basically the same as a hate crime law, which should, rather than pander to the extremists, piss them off more than anything else.
"Unlike the old blasphemy laws which only protected the dominant religion [Roman Catholicism] � this one seems to protect all religions, so it kind of has a modern equality bent to it," Weinrib adds.
Bad idea because it protects Islam as well, if it protects Islam you are going to have some problems.
So I take it Dogma and the Life of Brian will now be officially banned in Ireland? What's next, banning Winnie the Poo stories that involve Piglet because that might offend Muslims?
I'm going to break an Irish Law. An Islamic couple killed their three daughters because their mourals were corrupted because the absorbed Canadian culture and required honour killings. What an Islamic extremist pig f asshole.
Whats keeping religions from changing whats offensive to them? they can make it so saying something like "there is no god" (which there isn't) is extremely offensive to their religion cuz it may change the views of the blind followers and make them realize they are just like sheep in a field.
God is mans excuse for explaining things he doesn't understand.
viliger1: why doesn't the rain fall? viliger2: cuz god is angry, we must pray for him to be happy
But then again God is a way for people to maintain hope in desperate times, a way for them to hold some sanity and have something to believe in when they are scared about the world and don't understand whats going on.
But when it comes down to it, church and state should be kept separate. If you don't like the opinions expressed in the country you're in, go somewhere that fits your beliefs.
Jesus Christ, god damnit. My point being that whats blasphemy to one person is not nessesarily to another. If your not Muslim and I say Allah sucks balls, that's not blasphemy to you. You can curse or Blaspheme all you want as far as I'm concearned, if you go to hell for it that will be your punnishment! I can't buy into mass religion though, something that in all cases and variations requires blind faith in the face of glaring contradictions is just small and close minded. I'll put my faith in Karma and just live my life as a good person. Plus my wife says I'm going to heaven if it exists anyways cause it wouldn't be heaven without me (for her anyway)
"Choban" said Jesus Christ, god damnit. My point being that whats blasphemy to one person is not nessesarily to another. If your not Muslim and I say Allah sucks balls, that's not blasphemy to you. You can curse or Blaspheme all you want as far as I'm concearned, if you go to hell for it that will be your punnishment! I can't buy into mass religion though, something that in all cases and variations requires blind faith in the face of glaring contradictions is just small and close minded. I'll put my faith in Karma and just live my life as a good person. Plus my wife says I'm going to heaven if it exists anyways cause it wouldn't be heaven without me (for her anyway)
Actually Allah wasn't the one one sucking balls it was Mohammed; he liked little boys and little girls. Great Guy to praise as a prophet.
Interesting that Ireland, which is majority christian, passes a law against saying anything that may offend or challenge someone's religious beliefs.... and it suddenly turns into another bashing of Muslims?
In relation to the original report, I think it's pretty stupid, but not all that suprising, esspecially with my experience growing up Irish-Roman Catholic.... you'd get a good smack up side the head if you said anything religious in vain.
Apparently in the report they already had a law in Ireland about publishing blasphemous material since 1961... and back in 2006, I do remember hearing about this proposal and trying to relate it to a hate crime.
I just didn't think it'd get this far.
Here's a question:
What's protecting athiests and their rights? Will there be an equivilant law put in place to make sure religious people don't take athiest beliefs and offend them or challenge them?
Not just for Muslims anymore
Religous Extremism
Not just for Muslims anymore
Nutbars are everywhere. Every religious group, political group, every job, and every country. A step backward in my opinion.
Religous Extremism
Not just for Muslims anymore
Nutbars are everywhere. Every religious group, political group, every job, and every country. A step backward in my opinion.
That's not just a step, that's a giant leap! I'm constantly amazed at how the fundamentalists of all persuasions get this kind of crap though the processes without at least on clear thinking individual derailing it.
It may end up being law, but I'll bet millions it would be overturned on its first court challenge. It's unfortunate it got that far though.
Labelling it as a law by religous extremists is misleading, no self righteous religous extremist would ever want a law passed that banned the blashpeming of the other guy's religion.
So unless I'm reading the article wrong it's basically the same as a hate crime law, which should, rather than pander to the extremists, piss them off more than anything else.
Bad idea because it protects Islam as well, if it protects Islam you are going to have some problems.
God is mans excuse for explaining things he doesn't understand.
viliger1: why doesn't the rain fall?
viliger2: cuz god is angry, we must pray for him to be happy
But then again God is a way for people to maintain hope in desperate times, a way for them to hold some sanity and have something to believe in when they are scared about the world and don't understand whats going on.
But when it comes down to it, church and state should be kept separate. If you don't like the opinions expressed in the country you're in, go somewhere that fits your beliefs.
My point being that whats blasphemy to one person is not nessesarily to another.
If your not Muslim and I say Allah sucks balls, that's not blasphemy to you.
You can curse or Blaspheme all you want as far as I'm concearned, if you go to hell for it that will be your punnishment!
I can't buy into mass religion though, something that in all cases and variations requires blind faith in the face of glaring contradictions is just small and close minded. I'll put my faith in Karma and just live my life as a good person.
Plus my wife says I'm going to heaven if it exists anyways cause it wouldn't be heaven without me (for her anyway)
Jesus Christ, god damnit.
My point being that whats blasphemy to one person is not nessesarily to another.
If your not Muslim and I say Allah sucks balls, that's not blasphemy to you.
You can curse or Blaspheme all you want as far as I'm concearned, if you go to hell for it that will be your punnishment!
I can't buy into mass religion though, something that in all cases and variations requires blind faith in the face of glaring contradictions is just small and close minded. I'll put my faith in Karma and just live my life as a good person.
Plus my wife says I'm going to heaven if it exists anyways cause it wouldn't be heaven without me (for her anyway)
Actually Allah wasn't the one one sucking balls it was Mohammed; he liked little boys and little girls. Great Guy to praise as a prophet.
In relation to the original report, I think it's pretty stupid, but not all that suprising, esspecially with my experience growing up Irish-Roman Catholic.... you'd get a good smack up side the head if you said anything religious in vain.
Apparently in the report they already had a law in Ireland about publishing blasphemous material since 1961... and back in 2006, I do remember hearing about this proposal and trying to relate it to a hate crime.
I just didn't think it'd get this far.
Here's a question:
What's protecting athiests and their rights? Will there be an equivilant law put in place to make sure religious people don't take athiest beliefs and offend them or challenge them?