Pirates hijack three more ships

I say, kill them all. Hunt down all the pirates like the British use to do and just hang them all. That is the ones that surrender. The others just put a bullet in the head and be done with the scum.

Couldn't agree with you more Bacardi4206; "kill'em all."

But how do you do that with all the human shields they have captured?

Maybe the USA and Canada need to start looking at the Samalians immigrants here to see if they have any ties to these criminal organizations.

One of the ideas one hears suggested everywhere but the MSM is take out the mother ships.

The idea is those smaller attack skiffs are being ferried out to the shipping lanes by larger ships. I don't know the whole truth on that one, because all I know is what the MSM tells me, and they don't discuss it. But let's assume it's true.

The attack the mother ships proposal says board any suspicious ship. Search and seizure. In the case of an attack, take out the mother ship. Identify the mother ships, and take them out in Somalian harbors.

One I always wondered about is why can't you take anybody out connected to the hijacking after the payoff is made.

Or how about this? Find out who's bankrolling these expeditions and take them out. Or, if that's too harsh for the more sensitive bake sales for the pirates crowd, at least lock their international accounts.

the 'mother ships' are usually fishing trawlers,

fishing the nuclear waste infected overfished no fish left
cause big bad whitey got em all areas.

I imagine someone will start a program of searches of these boats.

Whoever shoots, sinks.

Problem is that its not difficult to have most of the weapons already in
the skiffs, and then its just another fishing boat.

int'l accounts ?
my guess this is a cash business, and it has stayed that way.
complete with tunneling money around with
an informal Western Union setup.


The 200 plus whatever they got today is still a problem that needs
to be resolved.

I'll nominate the Seals to trade flippers for sandals

someone should just get a gps tracker on one of these boats..then find out where the home base is.

The "home base" is a little country called Somalia. If you want to kill all of the pirates, you might as well kill all of the inhabitants of Somalia. This is a symptom of a much larger problem, which is Somalia being in a very bad state of anarchy. If America and the rest of the countries that have been busy blowing up Iraq for the past six years had spent even half as much effort on restoring order to Somalia, this probably wouldn't be happening.

Hows about the Somalis put a little order in all by themselves ?


See, if the US does something, they're shit on.
If they do nothing, they're shit on.


How very nice

Clinton tried to do something. Anyone recall Black Hawk Down?

Yeah, I heard this lefty lib guy bragging that one up on the MSM. He gave a wasp analogy. The idea is if you have a wasp problem you won't solve it swatting individual wasps. You have to take out the nest.

Sounds good, but then you dig into what he's actually proposing. He wants to hold talks. International talks discussing the Somalia problem.

So going by the past record of such talks, a resolution of some sort should take what? About 10 years. After which they agree to authorize a commission to create a report.

In the meantime though, there's all these irritating little wasp-pirates. Don't swat them though. You might offend their little waspy rights. Now me I say, why not? I swat wasps, then I find the nest, and take the hose to it. I don't even contact the official bureau of wasp affairs before I do it. Works for me.

Fun analogy, but there's a big discrepancy between what he means by "taking out the wasp nest", and what I mean by taking out the wasp nest. He wants to stick his head in the hole and talk to the wasps. I want to power-spray. And if the odd, innocent non-waspy, bug happens to be walking by that section of wall...oops.

Because they have the same effect there as what would happen to America if the US government suddenly decided to disappear. People would be shooting each other for food and boarding ships to steal goods they have no other real means of acquiring.

Yeah, I heard this lefty lib guy bragging that one up on the MSM. He gave a wasp analogy. The idea is if you have a wasp problem you won't solve it swatting individual wasps. You have to take out the nest.





Look, you can swat pirates all you like. I'm not advocating letting them get away with murder just because there's a lot of people in dire straits who are left with little choice but to steal. But the answer to the problem of piracy off the coast of Somalia is not killing all of the pirates, because there will just be more pirates, as it has just been demonstrated.

Try to disagree with me on this all you like, go ahead and belittle the idea of doing something about the lack of enforced laws in Somalia until you're blue in the face, but look at what just happened. They killed some pirates and more appeared to take their place. What makes you think this won't continue all the way down the line to this imaginary "pirate base"?

I think before we start attacking each other we should know specifically what the other is proposing. Their seems to be misunderstanding there.

OK, now me I'd try it all, and see what sticks. Convoys? Check em out. Protective measures already in place on many ships? Yup, but moreso. Security forces on ship? Check it out. Experiment. See what happens.

Fix the problem in Somalia? Try that one on too. Let's see what happens. Let the bureaucrats do what they do.

In the meantime...check all Somali craft out in the shipping lanes. Fishing trawlers, or other. If they're carrying rocket launcers and AK 47s they've got a problem. Use bait ships to attract pirates, then blow them to bits when they attack. Find their mother ship, and blow them to bits. Do intelligence work. Where's the financing coming from? Where's it going? Stop that.

Wait for the UN, or other equally productive international organization to solve the problem in Somalia. Don't hold breath.

OK that's what I'd do. What would you do? You'd ignore the problem at sea, and fix the problem on land, right? You'd solve the problem in Somalia, is that correct? You'd fix their government. Very well. Specifically how? How long do you figure it would take you?

The important step is to take care of them before they get on the vessel. Fire warning shots to approaching vessels, loud speaker warnings, fail to heed said warnings. Send them to the bottom of the ocean.

No one is capturing anyone that way.

It'd be nice if this thing could get talked about without it being inflated to the dimensions of the War On Terror! or the oh-so-successful War On Drugs.

BTW, Obama's killed more pirates than any other President since Teddy Roosevelt. So much for him being *Soft On Pirates!

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