For many Canadians, it seems, dissing America has become part of our national fabric, like a great down comforter stretched from Newfoundland to Victoria to the rapidly diminishing ice cap of the formerly Great White North.
Why does everybody assume Canadian's are American haters 24/7, Speaking as a Canadian I don't even hate America 1/7. I do not hate Americans, well some of them. I only state insults though regarding the American Government. Never Americans themselves. I know some Canadians do however hate America as a whole, but that's hardly "all the time".
America has more then it's fair share of Canada bashing, for many years now. I'd say that as long as a fair percent of Americans continue to bash Canada, a fair percent of Canadians should bash America.
"Nietschze" said When the oppressed, the downtrodden, the conquered say to each other, with the vengeful cunning of the powerless, �Let us be different from evil people, namely, good! And that man is good who does not overpower, who hurts no one, who does not attack, who does not retaliate, who hands revenge over to God, who keeps himself hidden, as we do, who avoids all evil and demands little from life in general�like us, the patient, humble, and upright��what that amounts to, coolly expressed and without bias, is essentially nothing more than �We weak people are merely weak. It�s good if we do nothing, because we are not strong enough.�
Yeah I read that, it's a strong point but still. I am just really getting tierd of all the Canadian bashing.
Most Canadians don't really got to deal with Americans, or not often. Myself being a longtime gamer, interacts with Americans 24/7. My mom use to work at ATI as a help desk person and talked to many Americans as well and would always tell me the negativity conversations she had that day.
Out of the many Americans I have talked to, only about a 30% diddn't bash me for being Canadian, or bash Canada. That's a pretty low percent. The 30-40% though were really cool people, easy to get along with.
For a long time, from the begining. I would easily just laugh at them, and not say anything back. I found what they said amusing, and all the arrogant bashing they did. After a awhile, it just gets to you.
It is easy for one person who just reads the critism on the internet or news, and laugh at it everyday. But it's another thing to recieve it in your face every day.
Let's say for example, you got a boss that is constantly on your case everyday. Even when you do things right, or your a women and your being prejudiced against because of that everyday. Doesn't that eventually ending up making you just not want to take it anymore? Everybody has there maximum points.
Even with all the bashing I recieve every day, I still do not go out American bashing 24/7. I mostly laugh, and ignore them but there are days where I just lose it and give in.
My point being is, it's ok that Canadians bash Americans. Some people do it because it's fun, and that's wrong but some people also do it because they can't take it anymore and that's perfectly ok. It's just like stress, if you just keep taking it in without un-leashing it. It harms you, and can turn into depression. All that bottled stress is not good for you.
Canadian politicians (Paul Martin) like to feed on the idea that all Canadians hate Americans, it's popular in southern Ontario especially when the Republicans are in the white house. News media(CBC) also like to portray Americans in a bad light which adds fuel to the fire.
As a Canadian living in the US I can say there is much to laugh at, and some things to hate, but I think in the end I have to pity many.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
They woke up from a dream land recently and found out that there are other views around the world, and that to many they are not the bright shining light that they seem to think they are. Their innocents shattered they are heading to the bunkers to keep the rest of the world that they inadvertantly offended from getting in and exacting revenge.
And they are a culture that wants to have AND eat the cake. They make rules for their territories and expect that their citizens be treated according to their rules on others lands.
In Canada politics is about running the country, and shaping the next 5, 10, or 20 years. In the US it's about business. People are in the business of politics. It's their career and has little to do with leading and lots to do with controlling.
Americans have been brainwashed for so many years into thinking that they had the best of all possible worlds. They have taken the pill, and they continue to do so. They haven't noticed that the rest of the world has moved forward, fixed problems, and bettered itself. Some among them have started noticing that maybe there are better ways, and maybe they should be looked at, but the megalamaniacle among them refuses to believe that their fore fathers 230 years ago MIGHT have missed a few things or not have taken the future into account.
America would be a much better place, and Americans would be much better people if they would just LIGHTEN UP a little and give everyone their dues... Learn a little about your neighboUrs (There is no such thing as Canadian Bacon, Folks in North Dakota say Eh more than Canadians, and there is summer months in Montreal where all our igloos melt and we are essentially homeless.) and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
Much of the alleged Canadian resentment is likely rooted in the grim reality that we are a large country, sparcely populated alongside the economically/militarilly most powerful national on earth. It's sorta like the blue-colour worker living next door to the lawyer/doctor/executive. We psuh our lawnmower and he rides his or hire somebody to ride it. Such resentment is normal.
As far as america, there is much I dislike attitude wise but no different than my perception of Torontonians. People in large urban areas are much different than the folks. Away from America's megalopolis folks are acceptable enough.
Canadians often extend their dislike of certain American policies or executive leadership to the population as a whole. This, unfortunately, is incorrect as I don't believe Canadians "dislike" Americans, but often disagree with their politics (as do many Americans sometimes)
In terms of historical roots, remember (as some here don't), Canadians aren't somehow "envious" of Americans (only the simple-minded would push this) insomuch that anti-Americanism has been a cultural trait for centuries (especially in UEL destinations like Ontario). Many of us (and our history and culture) are descendants of individuals that outright rejected republicanism and this has been reflected in our schools, history books, culture and the zeitgeist for centuries. It's not necessarily malicious, it's a healthy reminder of why we created this nation and not simply joined theirs.
"klaatu62" said As a Canadian living in the US I can say there is much to laugh at, and some things to hate, but I think in the end I have to pity many.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
They woke up from a dream land recently and found out that there are other views around the world, and that to many they are not the bright shining light that they seem to think they are. Their innocents shattered they are heading to the bunkers to keep the rest of the world that they inadvertantly offended from getting in and exacting revenge.
And they are a culture that wants to have AND eat the cake. They make rules for their territories and expect that their citizens be treated according to their rules on others lands.
In Canada politics is about running the country, and shaping the next 5, 10, or 20 years. In the US it's about business. People are in the business of politics. It's their career and has little to do with leading and lots to do with controlling.
Americans have been brainwashed for so many years into thinking that they had the best of all possible worlds. They have taken the pill, and they continue to do so. They haven't noticed that the rest of the world has moved forward, fixed problems, and bettered itself. Some among them have started noticing that maybe there are better ways, and maybe they should be looked at, but the megalamaniacle among them refuses to believe that their fore fathers 230 years ago MIGHT have missed a few things or not have taken the future into account.
America would be a much better place, and Americans would be much better people if they would just LIGHTEN UP a little and give everyone their dues... Learn a little about your neighboUrs (There is no such thing as Canadian Bacon, Folks in North Dakota say Eh more than Canadians, and there is summer months in Montreal where all our igloos melt and we are essentially homeless.) and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.
Just my opinion... I could be wrong.
As a Canadian who was raised in the States and lived there for much of my life, I wholeheartedly agree.
The only thing I would add here is that the politicians, the worsening education systems and the corporate-controlled media contribute to the problem, perpetuating ideas like, "If you question the system, you're anti-American," or "We're the best country in the world, so there's no need to pay much attention to the practises of other countries," or "We're the most technologically advanced country in the world," etc. Americans are fed a constant diet of certain ideas from a very young age. I know because I've had to overcome them myself. And I thought of myself as being beyond a lot of that stuff, but especially after moving back to Canada as an adult, I'm still coming to realize just how much utter I've been fed all these years.
Anyway, as a result of these things, most Canadians would be shocked to learn how unbelievably ignorant of other countries the average American is. I don't mean this as an insult, and it's not directly their fault either. Having grown up in the U.S., I was subject to this same system as well and I've had to self-educate to overcome this. But for the millions who don't.... Ever seen Rick Mercer's "Talking to Americans?" It's embarrassing... and all too typical of what I've seen in American society for many years.
"Mustang1" said Canadians often extend their dislike of certain American policies or executive leadership to the population as a whole. This, unfortunately, is incorrect as I don't believe Canadians "dislike" Americans, but often disagree with their politics (as do many Americans sometimes)
In terms of historical roots, remember (as some here don't), Canadians aren't somehow "envious" of Americans (only the simple-minded would push this) insomuch that anti-Americanism has been a cultural trait for centuries (especially in UEL destinations like Ontario). Many of us (and our history and culture) are descendants of individuals that outright rejected republicanism and this has been reflected in our schools, history books, culture and the zeitgeist for centuries. It's not necessarily malicious, it's a healthy reminder of why we created this nation and not simply joined theirs.
I think this is accurate and sums the issue up very well.
Our hatred of Americanism is a little too much when it comes to Elections, but like many such things it's based on some fact. There are certainly some American values that we would benefit from and many of those values we have adopted already. However, what we really hate are those fellow Canadians that look to the US as a beacon of Truth and whine everytime we don't adopt everything American.
"klaatu62" said As a Canadian living in the US I can say there is much to laugh at, and some things to hate, but I think in the end I have to pity many.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
They woke up from a dream land recently and found out that there are other views around the world, and that to many they are not the bright shining light that they seem to think they are. Their innocents shattered they are heading to the bunkers to keep the rest of the world that they inadvertantly offended from getting in and exacting revenge.
And they are a culture that wants to have AND eat the cake. They make rules for their territories and expect that their citizens be treated according to their rules on others lands.
In Canada politics is about running the country, and shaping the next 5, 10, or 20 years. In the US it's about business. People are in the business of politics. It's their career and has little to do with leading and lots to do with controlling.
Americans have been brainwashed for so many years into thinking that they had the best of all possible worlds. They have taken the pill, and they continue to do so. They haven't noticed that the rest of the world has moved forward, fixed problems, and bettered itself. Some among them have started noticing that maybe there are better ways, and maybe they should be looked at, but the megalamaniacle among them refuses to believe that their fore fathers 230 years ago MIGHT have missed a few things or not have taken the future into account.
America would be a much better place, and Americans would be much better people if they would just LIGHTEN UP a little and give everyone their dues... Learn a little about your neighboUrs (There is no such thing as Canadian Bacon, Folks in North Dakota say Eh more than Canadians, and there is summer months in Montreal where all our igloos melt and we are essentially homeless.) and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.
Just my opinion... I could be wrong.
That is EXACTLY the attitude and perception I have come across when talking to americans. When they get abroad here to Sweden they are very much more humble when they finaly realize that some things actually work better here than in the U.S.
America has more then it's fair share of Canada bashing, for many years now. I'd say that as long as a fair percent of Americans continue to bash Canada, a fair percent of Canadians should bash America.
When the oppressed, the downtrodden, the conquered say to each other, with the vengeful cunning of the powerless, �Let us be different from evil people, namely, good! And that man is good who does not overpower, who hurts no one, who does not attack, who does not retaliate, who hands revenge over to God, who keeps himself hidden, as we do, who avoids all evil and demands little from life in general�like us, the patient, humble, and upright��what that amounts to, coolly expressed and without bias, is essentially nothing more than �We weak people are merely weak. It�s good if we do nothing, because we are not strong enough.�
Most Canadians don't really got to deal with Americans, or not often. Myself being a longtime gamer, interacts with Americans 24/7. My mom use to work at ATI as a help desk person and talked to many Americans as well and would always tell me the negativity conversations she had that day.
Out of the many Americans I have talked to, only about a 30% diddn't bash me for being Canadian, or bash Canada. That's a pretty low percent. The 30-40% though were really cool people, easy to get along with.
For a long time, from the begining. I would easily just laugh at them, and not say anything back. I found what they said amusing, and all the arrogant bashing they did. After a awhile, it just gets to you.
It is easy for one person who just reads the critism on the internet or news, and laugh at it everyday. But it's another thing to recieve it in your face every day.
Let's say for example, you got a boss that is constantly on your case everyday. Even when you do things right, or your a women and your being prejudiced against because of that everyday. Doesn't that eventually ending up making you just not want to take it anymore? Everybody has there maximum points.
Even with all the bashing I recieve every day, I still do not go out American bashing 24/7. I mostly laugh, and ignore them but there are days where I just lose it and give in.
My point being is, it's ok that Canadians bash Americans. Some people do it because it's fun, and that's wrong but some people also do it because they can't take it anymore and that's perfectly ok. It's just like stress, if you just keep taking it in without un-leashing it. It harms you, and can turn into depression. All that bottled stress is not good for you.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
They woke up from a dream land recently and found out that there are other views around the world, and that to many they are not the bright shining light that they seem to think they are. Their innocents shattered they are heading to the bunkers to keep the rest of the world that they inadvertantly offended from getting in and exacting revenge.
And they are a culture that wants to have AND eat the cake. They make rules for their territories and expect that their citizens be treated according to their rules on others lands.
In Canada politics is about running the country, and shaping the next 5, 10, or 20 years. In the US it's about business. People are in the business of politics. It's their career and has little to do with leading and lots to do with controlling.
Americans have been brainwashed for so many years into thinking that they had the best of all possible worlds. They have taken the pill, and they continue to do so. They haven't noticed that the rest of the world has moved forward, fixed problems, and bettered itself. Some among them have started noticing that maybe there are better ways, and maybe they should be looked at, but the megalamaniacle among them refuses to believe that their fore fathers 230 years ago MIGHT have missed a few things or not have taken the future into account.
America would be a much better place, and Americans would be much better people if they would just LIGHTEN UP a little and give everyone their dues... Learn a little about your neighboUrs (There is no such thing as Canadian Bacon, Folks in North Dakota say Eh more than Canadians, and there is summer months in Montreal where all our igloos melt and we are essentially homeless.) and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.
Just my opinion... I could be wrong.
As an American, I can't argue with your post. Pretty much dead on.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
That was a very nice description of Torontonians
As far as america, there is much I dislike attitude wise but no different than my perception of Torontonians. People in large urban areas are much different than the folks. Away from America's megalopolis folks are acceptable enough.
In terms of historical roots, remember (as some here don't), Canadians aren't somehow "envious" of Americans (only the simple-minded would push this) insomuch that anti-Americanism has been a cultural trait for centuries (especially in UEL destinations like Ontario). Many of us (and our history and culture) are descendants of individuals that outright rejected republicanism and this has been reflected in our schools, history books, culture and the zeitgeist for centuries. It's not necessarily malicious, it's a healthy reminder of why we created this nation and not simply joined theirs.
As a Canadian living in the US I can say there is much to laugh at, and some things to hate, but I think in the end I have to pity many.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
They woke up from a dream land recently and found out that there are other views around the world, and that to many they are not the bright shining light that they seem to think they are. Their innocents shattered they are heading to the bunkers to keep the rest of the world that they inadvertantly offended from getting in and exacting revenge.
And they are a culture that wants to have AND eat the cake. They make rules for their territories and expect that their citizens be treated according to their rules on others lands.
In Canada politics is about running the country, and shaping the next 5, 10, or 20 years. In the US it's about business. People are in the business of politics. It's their career and has little to do with leading and lots to do with controlling.
Americans have been brainwashed for so many years into thinking that they had the best of all possible worlds. They have taken the pill, and they continue to do so. They haven't noticed that the rest of the world has moved forward, fixed problems, and bettered itself. Some among them have started noticing that maybe there are better ways, and maybe they should be looked at, but the megalamaniacle among them refuses to believe that their fore fathers 230 years ago MIGHT have missed a few things or not have taken the future into account.
America would be a much better place, and Americans would be much better people if they would just LIGHTEN UP a little and give everyone their dues... Learn a little about your neighboUrs (There is no such thing as Canadian Bacon, Folks in North Dakota say Eh more than Canadians, and there is summer months in Montreal where all our igloos melt and we are essentially homeless.) and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.
Just my opinion... I could be wrong.
As a Canadian who was raised in the States and lived there for much of my life, I wholeheartedly agree.
The only thing I would add here is that the politicians, the worsening education systems and the corporate-controlled media contribute to the problem, perpetuating ideas like, "If you question the system, you're anti-American," or "We're the best country in the world, so there's no need to pay much attention to the practises of other countries," or "We're the most technologically advanced country in the world," etc. Americans are fed a constant diet of certain ideas from a very young age. I know because I've had to overcome them myself. And I thought of myself as being beyond a lot of that stuff, but especially after moving back to Canada as an adult, I'm still coming to realize just how much utter I've been fed all these years.
Anyway, as a result of these things, most Canadians would be shocked to learn how unbelievably ignorant of other countries the average American is. I don't mean this as an insult, and it's not directly their fault either. Having grown up in the U.S., I was subject to this same system as well and I've had to self-educate to overcome this. But for the millions who don't....
Canadians often extend their dislike of certain American policies or executive leadership to the population as a whole. This, unfortunately, is incorrect as I don't believe Canadians "dislike" Americans, but often disagree with their politics (as do many Americans sometimes)
In terms of historical roots, remember (as some here don't), Canadians aren't somehow "envious" of Americans (only the simple-minded would push this) insomuch that anti-Americanism has been a cultural trait for centuries (especially in UEL destinations like Ontario). Many of us (and our history and culture) are descendants of individuals that outright rejected republicanism and this has been reflected in our schools, history books, culture and the zeitgeist for centuries. It's not necessarily malicious, it's a healthy reminder of why we created this nation and not simply joined theirs.
I think this is accurate and sums the issue up very well.
As a Canadian living in the US I can say there is much to laugh at, and some things to hate, but I think in the end I have to pity many.
They know little of geography beyond their own borders, get no news that is beyond 50 miles of the local TV station. They have no idea of the world around them and believe, I mean REALY believe that everyone on the planet wants to be like them or because of lack of ability wants them to disappear.
They woke up from a dream land recently and found out that there are other views around the world, and that to many they are not the bright shining light that they seem to think they are. Their innocents shattered they are heading to the bunkers to keep the rest of the world that they inadvertantly offended from getting in and exacting revenge.
And they are a culture that wants to have AND eat the cake. They make rules for their territories and expect that their citizens be treated according to their rules on others lands.
In Canada politics is about running the country, and shaping the next 5, 10, or 20 years. In the US it's about business. People are in the business of politics. It's their career and has little to do with leading and lots to do with controlling.
Americans have been brainwashed for so many years into thinking that they had the best of all possible worlds. They have taken the pill, and they continue to do so. They haven't noticed that the rest of the world has moved forward, fixed problems, and bettered itself. Some among them have started noticing that maybe there are better ways, and maybe they should be looked at, but the megalamaniacle among them refuses to believe that their fore fathers 230 years ago MIGHT have missed a few things or not have taken the future into account.
America would be a much better place, and Americans would be much better people if they would just LIGHTEN UP a little and give everyone their dues... Learn a little about your neighboUrs (There is no such thing as Canadian Bacon, Folks in North Dakota say Eh more than Canadians, and there is summer months in Montreal where all our igloos melt and we are essentially homeless.) and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.
Just my opinion... I could be wrong.
That is EXACTLY the attitude and perception I have come across when talking to americans. When they get abroad here to Sweden they are very much more humble when they finaly realize that some things actually work better here than in the U.S.