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We don't need Canada's 'heroes,' Afghan MP tell

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We don't need Canada's 'heroes,' Afghan MP tells Victoria rally


World | 208489 hits | Oct 29 10:37 am | Posted by: Hyack
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Afghanistan doesn't need Canada's soldiers but would be grateful for any material and moral support, a female member of the Afghan parliament said yesterday.

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  1. by avatar sandorski
    Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:07 pm
    Whoever came up with that Title should be bitch slapped.

  2. by sasquatch2
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:27 pm
    Since her stand, Joya has survived four assassination attempts and now travels around the country disguised under a burqa and only with armed guards. Earlier this year she was suspended from the Afghan parliament.

    No doubt! She sounds to be mentally defective.

    She speaks for Afghanistan like Taliban Jack speaks for Canada. maybe less Layton hasn't been suspended.

  3. by avatar Streaker
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:54 pm
    "sasquatch2" said
    Since her stand, Joya has survived four assassination attempts and now travels around the country disguised under a burqa and only with armed guards. Earlier this year she was suspended from the Afghan parliament.


    No doubt! She sounds to be mentally defective.

    She speaks for Afghanistan like Taliban Jack speaks for Canada. maybe less Layton hasn't been suspended.


    So much for freedom of speech in this Great New Afghan Democracy we're propping up. :roll:

  4. by avatar saturn_656
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:23 pm
    As bad as it sounds, the fact that this woman can parade around Afghanistan and the world bad mouthing us is a sign we are getting the job done.

    When the Taliban were still in power, if she so much as walked outside without her Burka (much less speak) she'd be hanging from a tree by a rope.

    So I'm not taking her too seriously...

  5. by avatar Streaker
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:30 pm
    "saturn_656" said
    When the Taliban were still in power, if she so much as walked outside without her Burka (much less speak) she'd be hanging from a tree by a rope.


    From the article:
    Joya has survived four assassination attempts and now travels around the country disguised under a burqa and only with armed guards

  6. by ryan29
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:37 pm
    "sasquatch2" said
    Since her stand, Joya has survived four assassination attempts and now travels around the country disguised under a burqa and only with armed guards. Earlier this year she was suspended from the Afghan parliament.

    No doubt! She sounds to be mentally defective.

    She speaks for Afghanistan like Taliban Jack speaks for Canada. maybe less Layton hasn't been suspended.



    so if she is suspended from parliament is she still an MP over there ? thats important as there claiming she is an MP from afghanistan .

  7. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:38 pm
    "saturn_656" said
    As bad as it sounds, the fact that this woman can parade around Afghanistan and the world bad mouthing us is a sign we are getting the job done.


    Excellent point - kudos to you for the keen observation. :wink:

  8. by avatar Streaker
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:45 pm
    But, as a result of her badmouthing she can only parade around Afghanistan under a burqa and escorted by armed guards. :?

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:47 pm
    "Streaker" said
    But, as a result of her badmouthing she can only parade around Afghanistan under a burqa and escorted by armed guards. :?


    Yes, but not so long ago she'd be dead. :idea:

  10. by avatar Arctic_Menace
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:55 pm

    Yes, but not so long ago she'd be dead.


    No offense, but that's pretty weak, dude. I'd hardly call it signficant progress(or even progress at all) if we've gone from sure death to having it be around every possible corner. :roll:

  11. by avatar Streaker
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:56 pm
    A fair point, Bart, but as things stand she's beaten the odds in still being alive even in this post-Taliban era.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:12 pm
    "Streaker" said
    A fair point, Bart, but as things stand she's beaten the odds in still being alive even in this post-Taliban era.


    She's pushing her luck by ticking off *everyone* around her. I agree with you and I'd say it's a matter of time before she'll be taking a dirt nap.

    Still, in the bad old days she'd have never made it out of her village before the Tallywhackers killed her.

  13. by avatar PENATRATOR
    Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:11 am
    Copy and pasted this, so I hope it turns out alright, here is just some of the stuff our intervention here has done, big waste of time huh Streaker?

    Education
    - over 6 million children (1/3 girls) enrolled in school, 2007-08 (Afghan Ministry of Education); vs. 2001 figure: 700,000, boys only
    - establishing 4,000 community-based schools & training 9,000 teachers (4,000 female); 120,000 children (85% girls) will benefit
    - literacy courses for over 5,600 people (over 5,100 women) in Kandahar

    Economy: - per capita income has doubled in three years
    - microfinance program ( top donor): over 380,000 people are accessing savings & small loans service in 23 provinces including Kandahar; more than 2/3 are women; repayment rate over 90%; more than 10,000 new clients on average each month
    - 1,500 women developing home-based gardens
    - alternative livelihoods programmes to develop agriculture

    Community Development & Infrastructure
    - National Solidarity Program: over 17,500 Community Development Councils elected; over 29,000 local infrastructure projects approved nationwide; over 12,700 already completed
    - 529 councils, 544 completed projects in Kandahar province: including over 1200 wells, over 150 km of irrigation canals and systems, and 500 culverts
    - more than 10 vocational training initiatives in Kandahar
    - almost 6,000 km of roads are being built or refurbished nationwide

    - National Area Based Development Programme: infrastructure in 12 districts of Kandahar province: 4 bridges and 2 dams under construction
    - 70,000 farmers have received seeds and fertilizers

    - key Kandahar-Spin Boldak highway being rebuilt & paved

    Health: - 7.3 million children targeted for polio vaccination nationwide through March 2009, including approximately 350,000 in Kandahar province
    - adding obstetric care unit next to Kandahar City Hospital; 14 maternal health care professionals received obstetrics training
    - 4,000 new medical facilities have opened nationwide since 2004
    - 83% now have access to basic medical care (vs. 9% in 2004)
    - infant mortality down 22% since 2000: 40,000 more babies survive every year; under-5 child mortality down 26%
    - over 200,000 recipients in Kandahar of emergency food aid since Dec 2006

    Refugees: over 5 million have returned since 2002; over 339,000 in 2007 alone with UNHCR assistance ( -supported)
    - 90% of returnees find jobs within six months of return

    Humanitarian demining: nearly 1.2 billion square metres of land cleared since 1989; 55% reduction in monthly victims, 34% decrease in highly-affected communities
    � support includes targeted demining in Kandahar province; more than 680,000 square metres cleared since March 2005, benefiting over 4000 people





    GOVERNANCE: justice, rule of law, and human rights

    Elections: over 10 million Afghans registered to vote in free and fair elections for President (2004) and Parliament (2005); 347 women were candidates for lower house

    Legislature: 30 parliamentary commissions established; 300 MPs and 500 staff received training

    Freedom of Expression: at least 7 television and 40 radio outlets now broadcasting (including 1 CF radio station in Kandahar); more than 350 newspapers and magazines publishing

    Gender Equality: Women�s Rights Fund: 30 projects funded, including radio programs, awareness training, and legal aid assistance

    Corrections: 2 civilian mentors/trainers in Kandahar, 1 advisor on corrections for UNAMA in Kabul

    Rule of law: 75 prosecutors trained, 68 public defenders, 90 judges (including 16 women); 75 judges trained in specialized procedures, 20 judges trained as trainers of others

    Afghan National Police: - complement of 10 civilian and 24 military police trainers/mentors at Kandahar PRT
    - over 475 ANP have received training through the PRT
    - Police OMLT: comprised of CF combat arms units and military police who will work at the district levels to help develop ANP training
    - Senior police advisers: 1 at Canadian Embassy, 2 at CSTC-A (US-led training and reform), 1 deployed to new EU Police Mission HQ in Kabul (up to 11 more to come)
    - support for police salary payments nationwide (Law and Order Trust Fund - LOTFA)
    - funded the construction of 11 Afghan National Police checkpoints and 6 sub-stations allowing the ANP to establish presence and conduct operations in and around Kandahar City


    SECURITY: consolidate peace and extend Afghan government control over territory
    Afghan National Army: coordinating and mentoring the training of soldiers at the Afghan National Training Centre in Kabul; helped train over 35,000 graduates so far
    - Operational Mentoring and Liaison Team (OMLT): approximately 150 CF personnel mentoring 5 ANA kandaks (battalions) + HQ element in Kandahar province
    - ongoing combined operations with ANA and ANP in Kandahar province
    - denying Taliban and other enemy forces both sanctuary and secure lines of communications in Zhari and Panjwayi districts

    Peace: 63,000 former combatants disarmed/demobilized; 85,000 light weapons collected; 16,000 heavy weapons secured ( -supported)

  14. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:38 am
    More and more it looking like a waste of time, Pen.

    Despite a half-decade of NATO-led fighting against the stubborn insurgency and billions in development aid, the country is closer to a basket case than a beacon of democracy in the troubled Middle East.


    "Afghanistan is in danger of becoming a failed narco-state"



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