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Canada's backlogged asylum system is 'not susta

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Canada's backlogged asylum system is 'not sustainable,' immigration minister says in leaked letter


Misc CDN | 207857 hits | Aug 26 10:59 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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The language is unusually strong for Ahmed Hussen, who speaks often about Canada�s 'strict and efficient immigration and border-control system'

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  1. by Prof_Chomsky
    Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:21 pm
    A simple solution would be to setup a "kangaroo" court. Have every aslyum seeker immediately seen by a judge. If the case has merit, you can stay. If not, you get a free ticket home. Set an absolute limit of yearly asylum seekers, and anyone past that number, sorry, we aren't the world's homeless shelter, home you go.

  2. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:43 pm
    A better solution might be to simply call the whole border crossing an entry point. Then when you catch a border jumper you can simply boot him back to America by the safe third country agreement. Others have suggested this.

    Another thing that could be done is if we are taking asylum seekers take the ones most in need. Yazidis, Druze, Christians in zones targeting them for attack or white South African farmers - these sorts have legitimate well-known claims. Muslims already living and working in places like Lebanon and Turkey but favored by corrupt refugee agencies, UN and other, don't.

  3. by Prof_Chomsky
    Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:03 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said
    A better solution might be to simply call the whole border crossing an entry point. Then when you catch a border jumper you can simply boot him back to America by the safe third country agreement. Others have suggested this.

    Another thing that could be done is if we are taking asylum seekers take the ones most in need. Yazidis, Druze, Christians in zones targeting them for attack or white South African farmers - these sorts have legitimate well-known claims. Muslims already living and working in places like Lebanon and Turkey but favored by corrupt refugee agencies, UN and other, don't.


    Agreed. If you need asylum from the USA, you're doing something wrong. :)
    Refugee or not, we still need to prioritize what we need over burdens. Educated refugee from country X vs goat herder from country y?

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:18 pm
    Just open your borders and let everyone in. Immigration is a human right, don't you know?

  5. by Prof_Chomsky
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:45 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Just open your borders and let everyone in. Immigration is a human right, don't you know?


    Not sure anyone has ever claimed that. Freedom to travel is listed under the UN. Not freedom to go to any country you want and do whatever you want while there and get the benefits of that place for free.

  6. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:36 pm
    "Prof_Chomsky" said
    A simple solution would be to setup a "kangaroo" court. Have every aslyum seeker immediately seen by a judge. If the case has merit, you can stay. If not, you get a free ticket home. Set an absolute limit of yearly asylum seekers, and anyone past that number, sorry, we aren't the world's homeless shelter, home you go.


    R=UP

    Although, a few judges wouldn't be able to vet all the information on these people in such a short period of time. So, unfortunately alot of the information wouldn't be available to them immediately and we've all seen the horror stories that surfaced after some of these people were granted asylum or citizenship.

    So, wouldn't it be better to say. "if your case has merit you can stay till you're properly vetted" but "we reserve the right to revoke your citizenship at any time if you actions or past history warrant it".

  7. by Prof_Chomsky
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:54 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    A simple solution would be to setup a "kangaroo" court. Have every aslyum seeker immediately seen by a judge. If the case has merit, you can stay. If not, you get a free ticket home. Set an absolute limit of yearly asylum seekers, and anyone past that number, sorry, we aren't the world's homeless shelter, home you go.


    R=UP

    Although, a few judges wouldn't be able to vet all the information on these people in such a short period of time. So, unfortunately alot of the information wouldn't be available to them immediately and we've all seen the horror stories that surfaced after some of these people were granted asylum or citizenship.

    So, wouldn't it be better to say. "if your case has merit you can stay till you're properly vetted" but "we reserve the right to revoke your citizenship at any time if you actions or past history warrant it".

    I agree that would be more "fair". But honestly, immigration isn't about fair. It's cold as hell, but we shouldn't be obligated to take care of the world's downtrodden. We can't afford to. So, come, give it your best shot in the kangaroo court, and if you can't make your case, sorry. Either we send you home on a plane, or maybe we let you take a job in some northern mining town for the next 20 years that no one else wants but we actually need.

  8. by avatar llama66
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:58 pm
    Canadian Immigration officials:

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:30 pm
    "Prof_Chomsky" said
    Just open your borders and let everyone in. Immigration is a human right, don't you know?


    Not sure anyone has ever claimed that. Freedom to travel is listed under the UN. Not freedom to go to any country you want and do whatever you want while there and get the benefits of that place for free.

    https://fee.org/articles/immigration-is ... man-right/

    Immigration Is a Fundamental Human Right

    The law should not keep people in or keep people out


    http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/1 ... -chapter-3

    https://sojo.net/articles/immigrant-rights-human-rights

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/ ... uman-right

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdo ... uman-right

  10. by avatar CharlesAnthony
    Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:04 pm
    In The Anarkey, there are no rights. There are only common interests.






    OTTAWA � The number of human traffickers making money off of human misery at the expense of the tax-payers of Canada is rising �far beyond� what the existing system can handle, according to a recent letter from Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen obtained by the National Post.
    Fixed!






    The Question: "Mr. Minister, who is bringing these poor people into our country?? and why are you not pursuing them?????????????????"

  11. by Prof_Chomsky
    Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:50 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Just open your borders and let everyone in. Immigration is a human right, don't you know?


    Not sure anyone has ever claimed that. Freedom to travel is listed under the UN. Not freedom to go to any country you want and do whatever you want while there and get the benefits of that place for free.

    https://fee.org/articles/immigration-is ... man-right/

    Immigration Is a Fundamental Human Right

    The law should not keep people in or keep people out


    http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/1 ... -chapter-3

    https://sojo.net/articles/immigrant-rights-human-rights

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/ ... uman-right

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdo ... uman-right

    Christ dude. Don't go citing some fringe group to backup your belief that actual elected governing bodies believe immigration is a human right.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:04 pm
    "Prof_Chomsky" said

    Christ dude. Don't go citing some fringe group to backup your belief that actual elected governing bodies believe immigration is a human right.


    Okay.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... en-borders

    Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., isn�t on the fringe of the Left. He is the second ranking member of the Democratic National Committee and he basically wears his immigration policy on his sleeve. More specifically, the No. 2 Democrat wore a T-Shirt that literally said �I don�t believe in borders.�

  13. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:07 pm
    And Mexico's incoming 'El Presidente' also says this:

    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/mexico-mass-migration/

    At a rally last week, Obrador called illegal immigration to the United States a �human right,�

  14. by Prof_Chomsky
    Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:12 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    Christ dude. Don't go citing some fringe group to backup your belief that actual elected governing bodies believe immigration is a human right.


    Okay.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... en-borders

    Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., isn�t on the fringe of the Left. He is the second ranking member of the Democratic National Committee and he basically wears his immigration policy on his sleeve. More specifically, the No. 2 Democrat wore a T-Shirt that literally said �I don�t believe in borders.�



    You're doing it again... If citing 1 congressman constitutes an "elected governing body", you could cite all the crazy BS Trump has shat out his mouth and claim that's the official law of the USA.



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