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Posts: 2074
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:10 am
Damn DO-It-Yourselfers, no help at all.
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Posts: 18770
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:19 am
If you're riding a segway and go wow I want to die, and while thinking this thought it goes over the cliff can the segway be considering assisting in your suicide? 
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CommanderSock
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2664
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:21 am
Terminally ill people should not be forced to live against their will.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:24 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock: Terminally ill people should not be forced to live against their will. Really nobody should. Say a quadriplegic. But say somebody is just bored with life, is it our right to tell them what to do with it?
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CommanderSock
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2664
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:32 am
andyt andyt: CommanderSock CommanderSock: Terminally ill people should not be forced to live against their will. Really nobody should. Say a quadriplegic. But say somebody is just bored with life, is it our right to tell them what to do with it? No it isn't. Hell, if they have lots of bills to pay and can't be bothered anymore, they might say fuck the bank and end their obligation. I'm pro suicide in more one than one.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:33 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock: I'm pro suicide in more one than one.
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CommanderSock
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2664
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:37 am
andyt andyt: CommanderSock CommanderSock: I'm pro suicide in more one than one.
? I support Euthanasia, I support the right to choose to die from non lethal or terminal illnesses, I support the elderly receiving good end of life care, not simply unnecessarily extending life, etc etc.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:39 am
CommanderSock CommanderSock: andyt andyt: CommanderSock CommanderSock: I'm pro suicide in more one than one.
? I support Euthanasia, I support the right to choose to die from non lethal or terminal illnesses, I support the elderly receiving good end of life care, not simply unnecessarily extending life, etc etc. Ah, you meant in more ways than one? Me too. I'm pretty liberal about it. It's your life and you can do what you want, including asking somebody else to help you.
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Posts: 11240
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:54 am
Just as long as Right to Die doesn't become the Duty to die.
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Brenda
CKA Uber
Posts: 50938
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:04 am
I think you have to be very careful with assisted suicide, just as you should be with abortion. It's not a "black or white" thing. I have no problem with people killing themselves, that's their thing, but you cannot expect anyone to be part of it. If you condone assisted suicide without good rules as how to, then you allow a drugdealer to deal their shit, because its "the users will to buy it (and kill them selves with it in the end)". I just doesn't work that way. It gives everyone a free pass to become a murderer, because there is no way a dead man can say it was against his will.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:08 am
Of course there would have to be safeguards. You help somebody to die, the onus should be on you to prove it, otherwise you're guilty of murder. That should give any assisters pause to make sure they're covered. For many people, the only assistance they would need is information on how to do it painlessly rather than somebody else being physically involved.
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Chumley
CKA Elite
Posts: 3448
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:16 am
GreenTiger GreenTiger: Just as long as Right to Die doesn't become the Duty to die. Logan's Run?
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Brenda
CKA Uber
Posts: 50938
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:18 am
andyt andyt: Of course there would have to be safeguards. You help somebody to die, the onus should be on you to prove it, otherwise you're guilty of murder. That should give any assisters pause to make sure they're covered. For many people, the only assistance they would need is information on how to do it painlessly rather than somebody else being physically involved. Welcome to the interwebz. Anything you want to know can be found there.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:22 am
Brenda Brenda: andyt andyt: Of course there would have to be safeguards. You help somebody to die, the onus should be on you to prove it, otherwise you're guilty of murder. That should give any assisters pause to make sure they're covered. For many people, the only assistance they would need is information on how to do it painlessly rather than somebody else being physically involved. Welcome to the interwebz. Anything you want to know can be found there. And yet we're banning that ad from Australia.
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