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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:15 am
The Conservative Government couldn't raise the GST from 5% a little higer, so Harper promissed bigger transfer payments if they harmonized sales tax, taxing food, family necessities like diapers, and so on.
The Federal Gov't is as much to blame for the HST law in BC and Ontario as are the Provincal Liberals.
It really shows there is no difference between the two money grabbing parties.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:18 am
tritium tritium: The Federal Gov't is as much to blame for the HST law in BC and Ontario as are the Provincal Liberals. McGuinty has been screwing Ontario taxpayers since he got into office. I hold him ultimately responsible here.
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Nuggie77
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:04 pm
Who would you rather have in power, the New Taliban Party?
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:09 am
Nuggie77 Nuggie77: Who would you rather have in power, the New Taliban Party? Anyone but the Liberals? What I don't get is why is this this such a big deal in BC but no one in Ontario seems to care(or maybe just the media doesn't care).
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:13 am
Beej Beej: Nuggie77 Nuggie77: Who would you rather have in power, the New Taliban Party? Anyone but the Liberals? What I don't get is why is this this such a big deal in BC but no one in Ontario seems to care(or maybe just the media doesn't care). Media doesn't care... the people do, when you tell them what is happening. I find that many don't even know this is coming.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:21 am
So do we get HST paid on our paycheque now too?
Heh, that would be nice. 13% extra...
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:51 am
Brenda Brenda: So do we get HST paid on our paycheque now too?
Heh, that would be nice. 13% extra... That would mean more cash in taxpayers pockets... and thats just not right.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 8:55 am
saturn_656 saturn_656: Brenda Brenda: So do we get HST paid on our paycheque now too?
Heh, that would be nice. 13% extra... That would mean more cash in taxpayers pockets... and thats just not right. Oh right, sh*t, how stupid of me... 
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:00 am
Brenda Brenda: So do we get HST paid on our paycheque now too?
Heh, that would be nice. 13% extra... excuse my ignorance here, but I thought the HST in BC would be 12% ?? (5% + 7%)
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Brenda
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:03 am
tritium tritium: Brenda Brenda: So do we get HST paid on our paycheque now too?
Heh, that would be nice. 13% extra... excuse my ignorance here, but I thought the HST in BC would be 12% ?? (5% + 7%) Men... Logic... Knock it off, will ya? 
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:25 am
tritium tritium: excuse my ignorance here, but I thought the HST in BC would be 12% ?? (5% + 7%) More likely, the HST will tax any existing taxes so the net effect will be more than 7%.
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andyt
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:45 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: tritium tritium: excuse my ignorance here, but I thought the HST in BC would be 12% ?? (5% + 7%) More likely, the HST will tax any existing taxes so the net effect will be more than 7%. For many things there will no change at all, since we were already paying GST and PST on them. Mostly services will cost more. The reason people are outraged is that the govt outright lied before the election and then brought in the new tax right after it. Also, there used to be a $400 annual GST rebate for low income earners, that's gone now. I would have liked to see Campbell at least make this tax revenue neutral for low income earners, but he don't roll like that. If you look at his tax changes, they're all about lowering the tax rate for the highest income earners while bringing in regressive taxes and user fees that disproportionately hurt the lower income groups. I think his theory is that if he taxes them enough, poor people will just disappear.
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:52 am
andyt andyt: For many things there will no change at all, since we were already paying GST and PST on them. Mostly services will cost more. The reason people are outraged is that the govt outright lied before the election and then brought in the new tax right after it. Also, there used to be a $400 annual GST rebate for low income earners, that's gone now. I would have liked to see Campbell at least make this tax revenue neutral for low income earners, but he don't roll like that. If you look at his tax changes, they're all about lowering the tax rate for the highest income earners while bringing in regressive taxes and user fees that disproportionately hurt the lower income groups. I think his theory is that if he taxes them enough, poor people will just disappear. You folks could always pursue constitutional limits on taxation as we have in California with regards to property tax.
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