[Newsbot]

Title: Obama picks up Nobel Prize
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-12-10 21:04:17

[gonavy47]

Actually had the nerve to pick it up. Next year's short list, Mickey Mouse, and the guy who invented the "No pest" strip.

[Brenda]

At least the money goes to charity. Or at least, that is what he said.

[gholl]

IMO I don't even know what to think about Obama being awarded the Noble Peace Prize...I think there may have been more deserving people out there. I watched the highlights of the speech as I was at work at the time and just found it awkward in regards to justifying the war and implying actions against Iran and North Korea. But I guess this is just how the cookie crumbles. Does anyone know the other people nominated?

[PENATRATOR]

gholl gholl:

Does anyone know the other people nominated?

This guy was

[EyeBrock]

I think he made a good speech. Some great bits in there such as:

"We must begin by acknowledging the hard truth that we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetimes. There will be times when nations - acting individually or in concert - will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified."

"I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: evil does exist in the world. A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34360743/ns ... se/page/3/

Whatever anybody thinks about Obama, he has started a more positive conversation on the planet. For that alone he deserves this and his speech is truly inspiring.

Nicely done.

[Brenda]

They keep that a secret for 50 years.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/nobel-pe ... -till-2059

[gholl]

That is quite a long time... well I guess I will know who else was nominated when I am 80 lmao!

[Lemmy]

Obama made a great speech. If he lives up to the ideals he presented in his acceptance, then he's a worthy recipient. Time will tell. You also have to put aside your North American bias when you consider how the rest of the world sees Obama. He's seen as a calming voice of reason in a world polarized between Muslim and non-Muslim nations. His role may yet be symbolic, but he's seen as a great peacemaker by Muslim and non-Muslim alike, all around the globe.

If this award acts like a carrot on a stick and forces Obama to re-think American foreign policy, then, in retrospect, he'll be considered a deserving recipient. What the right in North America thinks is really peanut-gallery nonesense on this issue.

[EyeBrock]

I totally agree with you Lemmy. At the very least Obama has got people talking to each other and the polarity of the Bush era is behind us. It didn't do anybody any good to not talk.

As Winston said, "To jaw-jaw is always better than to war war", and Obama's charisma may bring the planet closer together. It has to be worth a go eh?

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I think he made a good speech. Some great bits in there such as:

"We must begin by acknowledging the hard truth that we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetimes. There will be times when nations - acting individually or in concert - will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified."

"I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: evil does exist in the world. A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34360743/ns ... se/page/3/

Whatever anybody thinks about Obama, he has started a more positive conversation on the planet. For that alone he deserves this and his speech is truly inspiring.

Nicely done.

I quite liked it also. Mind you, I'm a lefty by current accounting methods, so it figures I would! But thanks EyeBrock for being one of the few that can look past ideology for a moment and recognize something of value from the opposite side of the political spectrum.

[Choban]

I think they should give it to some one that actually has done something, He was sworn in as President in January, spent the first few months getting his shit together, and was nominated for the Nobel in October.

This just in!!! Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching one college football game!!!

[Brenda]

Still, awarding him the peace prize while there are so many more people who have already done a lot, is kinda weird. I am sure they had their reasons, but I was pretty surprised.
He is handling it quite well tho.

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I think he made a good speech. Some great bits in there such as:

"We must begin by acknowledging the hard truth that we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetimes. There will be times when nations - acting individually or in concert - will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified."

"I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: evil does exist in the world. A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34360743/ns ... se/page/3/

Whatever anybody thinks about Obama, he has started a more positive conversation on the planet. For that alone he deserves this and his speech is truly inspiring.

Nicely done.

I quite liked it also. Mind you, I'm a lefty by current accounting methods, so it figures I would! But thanks EyeBrock for being one of the few that can look past ideology for a moment and recognize something of value from the opposite side of the political spectrum.

No probs zip. I can't help but like Obama.
To me he rises above the petty partisanship we are so used to. He has true promise and I'm a big fan from what I've seen and heard.

Who cares if he is nothing more than talk?

His speeches are truly inspirational and talking is what we have not being doing much of in the past few decades.

I believe he will be seen as a great leader in the calibre of Kennedy, Churchill and FDR. I think he's the right guy for this particular time in world history.

[ridenrain]

Medals like that are rewards for actions done, not actions they will do or crass political popularity contests. I didn't have much respect for the Nobel prize before and less now.