[Newsbot]

Title: Tories set to announce sweeping immigration reforms
Category: Political
Posted By: WDHIII
Date: 2008-11-28 08:33:49
Canadian

[mtbr]

Kenmore will love this one.

[bootlegga]

Sounds like a solid plan, I have to admit I'm surprised. Who'd have thought that loud mouth Kenney was good for anything other than soundbites.

Kudos!

[johnsmith]

Why wouldn't Canadians want skilled people immigrating here instead of useless leaches? There are plenty of people already here on social assistance to begin with. There comes a time where you have to stop feeling sorry for EVERYONE on this planet.

If somebody doesn't have something to offer then why should Canada take them in? To burden us? Yeah that's right, I want my taxes to go up even more so that more "poor" people can immigrate here and Canada can brag out how "multicultural" it is. More like how 3rd world it's turning into.

[DerbyX]

The trouble is that we do have plenty of highly skilled immigrants.... driving taxis and such. Its all well and good to bring them here but if they don't get employed in their field then they are wasted. Hell the govt has commercials running to that effect. Like the one where the "immigrant" is explaining a complex medical procedure to somebody who thanks them. Then the camera pans back as the "immigrant" goes back to sweeping the hallway. The govt doesn't control who hires them if at all when they get here. The US system works better because alot of the time they require the immigrant to have a job in their profession first.

The idea that Canada is letting in a flood of poor people is a bit of a urban legend. Aside from refugee claimants immigrants have to get an acceptable score which includes education and work experience.

(Of course sometimes it fails miserably which is how we ended up with Brenda. )

Fast-tracking alot of skilled workers in the wake of job layoffs won't do anybody any good. Then there is always the old cry of "Dey took our jerbs!"

[Brenda]

This is old
A new rule like this went in place in February. New applications are scanned on skills. Skill in high demand? Top of the list. Skill in not so high demand, too bad, wait 6 or 7 years.

$1:

(Of course sometimes it fails miserably which is how we ended up with Brenda. )

Don't you just love Canada's failures

[Thanos]

Brenda Brenda:

This is old
A new rule like this went in place in February. New applications are scanned on skills. Skill in high demand? Top of the list. Skill in not so high demand, too bad, wait 6 or 7 years.

$1:

(Of course sometimes it fails miserably which is how we ended up with Brenda. )

Don't you just love Canada's failures

And that's the way it should be too. Canada's needs first, immigrant needs second. Enlightened national self-interest in it's purest and best from.

[Brenda]

Thanos Thanos:

Brenda Brenda:

This is old
A new rule like this went in place in February. New applications are scanned on skills. Skill in high demand? Top of the list. Skill in not so high demand, too bad, wait 6 or 7 years.

$1:

(Of course sometimes it fails miserably which is how we ended up with Brenda. )

Don't you just love Canada's failures

And that's the way it should be too. Canada's needs first, immigrant needs second. Enlightened national self-interest in it's purest and best from.

Absolutely

[scarecrowe]

Skills come from skills training.
We need more skilled immigrants in Canada because we lack numbers who are willing to learn a skill.
The only mandated courses in Canadian universities and colleges avoid skills training (i.e. there are mandatory courses in wine tasting, cowboy movie appreciation, yoga, etc. anything that is nice to know but will get you nowhere) whereas in the countries that are providing the skilled immigrants, there exists obligatory skills training.
We are a just society, just barely able to do things for ourselves.

[Brenda]

Still... Every immigrant has to go back to school.
Hubby is a mechanic, in Holland licensed. If he wants his Red Seal Endorsement here, he needs to read up, learn the Canadian way of working (and learning and thinking), and write his test. Only because his diploma's are approved by the ITA. If that was not the case, he had to go back to school for at least a year.

[uwish]

That is no different than any other skilled person. Engineers Doctors etc included.

[kenmore]

Well the plan would be ok.. but like always the torys are a little late with it.. now we are in a recession,depression all those jobs they are referring to are now cutting staff.. a fair number of hospitals have announced staff layoffs this past week.. so ya really good idea fast tracking more immigrants to collect the dole.. if harper had a brain he would be dangerous.

[Brenda]

uwish uwish:

That is no different than any other skilled person. Engineers Doctors etc included.

thats what I said... EVERY immigrant has to go back to school. I didn't say it was a bad thing either, it's part of the immigrationprocess. Complaining cabdrivers who are doctors or engineers in their former country should have known that before they came to Canada. I did.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Trudeau introduced a system of providing points for skills in demand, the General Occupation List I believe. Then they found there was nothing much in demand. The bureaucrates would moil exotic dancers and cake decoraters to keep busy. So they abandoned the list in 2001 and replaced it with a preference for people with university degrees and multiple university degrees, thinking these are the best and the brightest and will drive the knowledge economy. This produced wide complaints about university educated immigrants driving taxi. So now they are going back to trying to figure out what is in demand. Anything in demand enough to be noticed in Ottawa is a signal to do more training in that area.

[Brenda]

The NOC list is still an important list in the immigration process. Truckdrivers for instance, are a D or C category, not an O or A, so you cannot immigrate as skilled truck driver...