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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=29291" target="_blank">Catering to our cons</a> (click to view)

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<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Hyack" target="_blank">Hyack</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-01-21 10:33:31
<strong>Canadian</strong>

[Yogi]

W. T. F.!!!!!!!
And 'they' wonder why the rate of recidivism is so high!
Exactly what part of our prison system serves as the 'punishment phase'???? How do I get my name on the waiting list?

[Lavics]

In my religion, I have a good bacon and egg breakfast with brown toasts, a good chicken soup with a salad for lunch and a nice big steak with potatoes and a beer for super. If I dont have that, my god will be pissed !!

Canada is just damn terrible for punishement. Where just too damn scared to stand up for what we really want.

Yogi, tell me where you apply, ill gladly be your neighbor.

[xerxes]

So what? If you go to prison you aren't allow to follow your religious beliefs?

[Lavics]

Bread and water is all you need in that 3x3 cell.

[martin14]

Lavics Lavics:

In my religion, I have a good bacon and egg breakfast with brown toasts, a good chicken soup with a salad for lunch and a nice big steak with potatoes and a beer for super. If I dont have that, my god will be pissed !!

Canada is just damn terrible for punishement. Where just too damn scared to stand up for what we really want.

Yogi, tell me where you apply, ill gladly be your neighbor.

hmm.. isnt that strange, my religon seems to be the same as yours.. except i also must

dine with a horny and willing virgin every evening...



xerxes, i think noone has a problem with religous beliefs.. just paying for all these extra these crminals get. Maybe they would behave better if they knew not only society is pissed at them,

but now they know GOD is pissed too.



bread and water is good punishment.

[Lavics]

martin14 martin14:

i also must
dine with a horny and willing virgin every evening...

Where are my manners

[xerxes]

Food that is religiously mandated doesn't cost that much more than regular food as there are whole sub-industries that produce Kosher and Halal (and others) food for mass-market consumption.

And another thing. Say a Jewish guy gets sent to prison and the first and only meal he gets is pork chops; a number of problems would arise. He could sue the government for a boatload of money that they could have saved by getting him the Kosher meal. Moreover, doing such a thing would violate his human rights and could be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Though, if the US served the inmates at Guantanamo pork chops all the time the usual suspects here would go at the idea.

[Yogi]

I'm being serious here. Give some thought to this post before you respond!

Our prison system IS THE ANSWER to the 'homeless situation'.

There never seems to be 'enough' money to take care of the homeless yet it seems that there is 'unlimited funding' available to the prisons. All a homeless person need do is throw a brick thru a window and then wait for the cops to show uo and 'arrest' them.

'3 hots 'n a cot'. Meals as set out by a dietician to address each persons 'requirements'.
medical, dental, optometry,
clean clothes,
daily exercise
socialisation,t.v.,radio, library
educational upgrades
Now, one may have to perform a couple of hours 'work' per day such as working in the kitchen or laundry or general cleaning for which their account is credited more than the daily stipend which they DO normally receive 'just for being there'! this money is automatically credited towards their personal account to be used for canteen or craft supplies.
Beats risking life freezing to death on the street!

[Yogi]

xerxes xerxes:

So what? If you go to prison you aren't allow to follow your religious beliefs?

I'm going to 'dump this question' right back in your lap! In YOUR opinion, what would constitute 'just punishment'?
If YOU were in charge of setting out the 'standards', what would the 'basics' be? Keeping in mind of course, that a lot of people ended up in jail by comitting crimes against 'the working poor' who are scambling from payday to payday, all the while knowing that a portion of their taxes are going towards 'coddling' prisoners! should prisoners actually have better living standards than many who are paying for THEIR upkeep?

[Alta_redneck]

I wonder which religion gets the horked up lung oysters?

I still like Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s approach to rehabilitation.

$1:

"We took away coffee, that saved $150,000 a year. Why do you need coffee in jail?" says Arpaio, patrolling the dusty, barren grounds. "Switched to bologna sandwiches, that saved half a million dollars a year."
Arpaio makes inmates pay for their meals, which some say are worse than those for the guard dogs. Canines eat $1.10 worth of food a day, the inmate 90 cents, the sheriff says. "I'm very proud of that too."

[Lavics]

Nice !! Good man

[Yogi]

xerxes xerxes:

Food that is religiously mandated doesn't cost that much more than regular food as there are whole sub-industries that produce Kosher and Halal (and others) food for mass-market consumption.

And another thing. Say a Jewish guy gets sent to prison and the first and only meal he gets is pork chops; a number of problems would arise. He could sue the government for a boatload of money that they could have saved by getting him the Kosher meal. Moreover, doing such a thing would violate his human rights and could be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

Though, if the US served the inmates at Guantanamo pork chops all the time the usual suspects here would go at the idea.

You and I (and everyone else) know that no one is going to die if they eat a pork chop. But there are many 'out there' who don't have that option and never broke any laws!

'Break the law and check your rights at the door'. You can pick them up on your way out!

Maybe then people would not be so quick to do as they please at anothers expense.

Menu:

Breakfast; Porridge, 2 toast,8 oz. milk, one piece of fruit

Lunch; Soup, one sandwich, 8 oz. milk, one piece of fruit

Supper; rice or potatoes, one helping of vegetables, meat as set out for THAT meal, (take it or leave it!) 8 oz of milk and one piece of fruit.

[martin14]

we need a guy like Sheriff Joe up here.....

put him in charge of the whole system..

[xerxes]

Yogi Yogi:

xerxes xerxes:

So what? If you go to prison you aren't allow to follow your religious beliefs?

I'm going to 'dump this question' right back in your lap! In YOUR opinion, what would constitute 'just punishment'?
If YOU were in charge of setting out the 'standards', what would the 'basics' be? Keeping in mind of course, that a lot of people ended up in jail by comitting crimes against 'the working poor' who are scambling from payday to payday, all the while knowing that a portion of their taxes are going towards 'coddling' prisoners! should prisoners actually have better living standards than many who are paying for THEIR upkeep?

Then I would say that a lot of the time, confinement is often punishment enough. Think about it. One of the most vital freedoms we enjoy is the ability to go and do as we please. The act of locking someone up for 23 hours a day and putting them on a regimented schedule is a direct repudiation of that freedom. Any sort of demeaning or dehumanizing treatment after that, to me, smacks of petty revenge.

I'm afraid I don't see why allowing prisoners to keep to their religiously mandated diets is coddling (though, on a philosophical level I think religious diets are BS).

But allow me to dump a question back in your lap. How do you define coddling? I ask because, depending on the person, coddling can be defined as keeping a prisoner alive in the first place.