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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:29 pm
 


<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=29246" target="_blank">Kelly: Canadian cities should be considered</a> (click to view)

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<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-01-20 10:16:33
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:29 pm
 


No more expansion! Maybe a little redistribution, but no more expansion...





PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:01 pm
 


No they shouldn't, as mentioned that league should contract the quality of players today is sheeeeeeeet


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:09 pm
 


I'm thinking more than a "little" redistribution... I want to know why cities that see perhaps two snowflakes in the winter (tops) have hockey teams?





PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:12 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
I'm thinking more than a "little" redistribution... I want to know why cities that see perhaps two snowflakes in the winter (tops) have hockey teams?


because they have money :roll: what does snow have to do with Hockey?...sure bring another team to Canada what will happen...the tax payer will get held for ransom. 8O


Forgetaboudit winnterpeg will never get another team they had their chance they blew it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:19 pm
 


mtbr mtbr:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
I'm thinking more than a "little" redistribution... I want to know why cities that see perhaps two snowflakes in the winter (tops) have hockey teams?


because they have money :roll: what does snow have to do with Hockey?...sure bring another team to Canada what will happen...the tax payer will get held for ransom. 8O


Forgetaboudit winnterpeg will never get another team they had their chance they blew it.


My point was places that never see snow also never see natural ICE... boy I didn't think I'd have to explain that one. :roll:





PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:23 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
mtbr mtbr:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
I'm thinking more than a "little" redistribution... I want to know why cities that see perhaps two snowflakes in the winter (tops) have hockey teams?


because they have money :roll: what does snow have to do with Hockey?...sure bring another team to Canada what will happen...the tax payer will get held for ransom. 8O


Forgetaboudit winnterpeg will never get another team they had their chance they blew it.


My point was places that never see snow also never see natural ICE... boy I didn't think I'd have to explain that one. :roll:



no you didn't but than again what's your point?

how many minor hockey games are held outdoors in Canada? ...very few it's all indoors.


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Well duh of course if there's an NHL expansion (BAD IDEA) Canadian cities should be considered. There's a problem when you make news of such an evidence.

Teams like the Coyotes, Hurricanes and Predators should never have existed. A healthy NHL would not only have less teams than today (24 seems like a fair number to me), but only a few of those would play down south. As far as I know, the only southern US team that has success comparable to Canadian teams when it comes to attendance is Dallas. The rest just get crappy averages of 11.5k or some such. Even LA... and them having a bad team isn't a good defense - the Habs sucked ass in 2000 and still pulled attendances of 20k like every game. And since the lock-out every single home game was sold out, yet as far as I know the Habs are still far from top-notch (heck they missed the playoffs 4 times in the last 7 years).

You know what's the average attendance in Quebec City for the QJMHL's Remparts? 12+k. A junior team in a 600k inhabitants canadian city brings in more spectators than an NHL team in multiple 1M+ inhabitants southern US cities. And the team is a longshot for any ultimate honor, too... the only advantage the Remps have above any NHL team is cheaper ticket prices.

So really, when I see how little attention the canadian markets receive among NHL top executives while teams like Nashville can't even get an average of 14k spectators during and after a 100+ points season... I just hang my head in shame. And then they talk of expansion in other southern US cities when what the league needs is shrinking and relocalization of teams to the north. Ri-di-cu-lous.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:56 pm
 


Quebec City should definitely get a team. :D


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:03 pm
 


I'd love it! Too bad it's unlikely to happen soon though. No political support, arena is too small and even the citizens don't seem to want it. Sucks. :(





PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:11 pm
 


fire_i fire_i:
Well duh of course if there's an NHL expansion (BAD IDEA) Canadian cities should be considered. There's a problem when you make news of such an evidence.

Teams like the Coyotes, Hurricanes and Predators should never have existed. A healthy NHL would not only have less teams than today (24 seems like a fair number to me), but only a few of those would play down south. As far as I know, the only southern US team that has success comparable to Canadian teams when it comes to attendance is Dallas. The rest just get crappy averages of 11.5k or some such. Even LA... and them having a bad team isn't a good defense - the Habs sucked ass in 2000 and still pulled attendances of 20k like every game. And since the lock-out every single home game was sold out, yet as far as I know the Habs are still far from top-notch (heck they missed the playoffs 4 times in the last 7 years).

You know what's the average attendance in Quebec City for the QJMHL's Remparts? 12+k. A junior team in a 600k inhabitants canadian city brings in more spectators than an NHL team in multiple 1M+ inhabitants southern US cities. And the team is a longshot for any ultimate honor, too... the only advantage the Remps have above any NHL team is cheaper ticket prices.

So really, when I see how little attention the canadian markets receive among NHL top executives while teams like Nashville can't even get an average of 14k spectators during and after a 100+ points season... I just hang my head in shame. And then they talk of expansion in other southern US cities when what the league needs is shrinking and relocalization of teams to the north. Ri-di-cu-lous.



How much do you think tickets cost in LA [?] ROTFL


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:48 pm
 


Get a grip!

The NHL is a business----BIG BUSINESS.....it's entertainment....HOLLYWOOD.

Every business needs a market......few Canadian cities....provide that market.

The Leafs sell-out because of the vast GTA market.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:35 pm
 


Actually man, Canadian cities provide excellent markets. Oustanding, even. Much, much better than the larger southern US cities.

The only problem? Not enough big investors in Canada. Too many in the southern US.

mtbr : I dunno, but I guess just nearing a ticket booth is enough for your small change to start melting away.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:37 pm
 


sasquatch2 sasquatch2:
Get a grip!

The NHL is a business----BIG BUSINESS.....it's entertainment....HOLLYWOOD.

Every business needs a market......few Canadian cities....provide that market.

The Leafs sell-out because of the vast GTA market.


The Habs have sold out every game 5-6 years straight. The are currently holding the league record and still going.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:43 pm
 


If I'm not mistaken, the Nordiques, even back after finishing dead last 2 years straight, still sold out most of their home games. I think their seasonal average attendance never fell below 1k people below the maximum the arena could hold.

So really, give Quebec City an arena of 19k seats and an average-to-good team and they sell out every home game with average ticket prices. And I'm sure Hamilton and Winnipeg could do the same. Smaller cities like Halifax could get something decent as well.


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