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So now denial and delusion are also "Canadian values"?
Not Canadian values but apparently yours.
Why don't you back your words up and explain just how financially generous Mulroney was compared to Martin?
I made no claims that Mulroney was any better, and indeed, why can't they all be bad? I've dug up numerous news reports that show the oppinion of the matter at the time and you refute them and the writter. You even refute the service men and women who back these claims up.
To prove you're case, you show me the government white paper which has always been as large a work of fiction as the throne speach. Why don't you dig up the senators investigation on the military. Maybe you'd believe something from you're own.
No, you just keep blaiming the Libs. I never here you bitching that Mulroney killed the military or blame him for the debt. You certainly never mention him balking at promsed military purchases, the largest tax increase ever, and sending our forces to gulf 1 woefully under equipped.
Sure servicemen bitch about budget cuts but guess what? So do all the other departments who got it just as bad. I understand you were cheering for Canada to be bankrupted under the conservative tax and spend mantra but we Libs had other ideas.
I understand that you think the Libs should have magically cut taxes, increased spending and still eliminate the debt but in the real world we live be certain realities. The fact is Chretien did the best with what he had and did a far better job then anybody you would have voted for.
The paper I cited got it bang on. Chretien wasn't asking the military to do more with less but less with less because that was the reality of the times. He had no choice because Canada had no choice or are you truly so blind you didn't see the dire straights we were in financially?
As soon as the budget was cleared up the money started pouring back into the military or are you ignorant of all the purchases he & MArtin made?
Along comes bushs war and it was the military themselves demanding to be deployed as Streaker posted. I don't believe for a second you guys or any military member would have accepted him saying "we can't go because we are still rebuilding". Hell, he took it in the ass for not going to Iraq and you say he deliberately sent troops into harms way under-equiped.
You are a dishonest partisan hack and you know it.
Thats why you haven't said word 1 about Tom's admission nor have you bothered addressing the fact that Harper tossed a respected MP out for votong riding instead of party
an act you have previously posted should be the focus of all federal MPs and complained bitterly that teh Liberals always force their MPs to tow the line.
Get over it. Chretien saved us from bankruptcy. You are welcome. The military has had funding increases of substantial proportion ever since we eliminated the deficit. get over it.
The Liberals could have easily used the surplus to "buy" a load of votes (like Harper did in QC).
They choose the wise and financially responsible position of addressing a rather large debt thereby making our recovery all the quicker and thereby freeing up loads more to spend on the military.
You are welcome.
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