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Title: Fraser River is now so warm it may kill migrating sockeye salmon
Category: Environmental
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2018-08-03 10:28:29
Canadian

[N_Fiddledog]

I've lived up and down the Fraser River practically my whole life.

Canoed, Motorboated, swam in it. Fished it with natives and whites.

The insinuation of that title is a lie. There's nothing here people familiar with the Fraser haven't seen before.

[Thanos]

Clearly Soros ordered all the fish to lie about this.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanos Thanos:

Clearly Soros ordered all the fish to lie about this.

Well if the CBC was a paper you could wrap fish in it. That's about as close to being any kind of fish expert they are.

[herbie]

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The best thing about science is that its true whether you believe it or not.

The river is warmer the salmon are at risk because of that.

[Thanos]

Soros somehow talked the water into raising it's own temperature just to "own the cons". The water will have a big cheque from Soros arriving any day now for going along with the scheme.

[BartSimpson]

"It may"

It may also freeze solid twelve months out of the year.

It may.

[Hyack]

Every couple of years we hear the Fraser is becoming hot enough to be detrimental to the fish either living in it, like the Sturgeon or those on their journey to spawn. The hotter the weather, the hotter the water. There may be a day coming when there is a major fish kill in the Fraser, it has happened elsewhere, so why not in the mighty Fraser.

[N_Fiddledog]

Hyack Hyack:

Every couple of years we hear the Fraser is becoming hot enough to be detrimental to the fish either living in it, like the Sturgeon or those on their journey to spawn. The hotter the weather, the hotter the water. There may be a day coming when there is a major fish kill in the Fraser, it has happened elsewhere, so why not in the mighty Fraser.

I'll ask you Hyack because you live here. Does it seem hotter this year than any other you've ever experienced down here?

Also, aren't there multiple runs of Sockeye? I think 4. There's an early run - in late summer, I think. That would be this one. As I recall it's the smallest, isn't it? About 1/20th of the total run. the total run goes into September, doesn't it?

Nobody told me that. That's just the way I remember it from living here a long time, up and down the Fraser River.

So if I'm right aren't we talking about a tiny fraction of the the salmon run making their way up the Fraser in the first early run. It's 22 degrees where I am on August 3rd. If that's weather that kills sockeye salmon they never should have lived after the Little Ice Age. It's just not unusual.

[N_Fiddledog]

Hopefully Zip pops in.

We've had a similar discussion to this one years ago.

Every time there's an El Nino or a week long heatwave somebody in the media (usually the CBC) is all "OMG the salmon are all going to die."

Zip, if you're out there do you remember the one from when there was another cycle of El Ninos? Then - I think it was about 4 years ago - do you remember the record salmon run.

I could be wrong but didn't you wind up apologizing? That last bit might be wishful thinking.

[N_Fiddledog]

I looked it up.

http://www.frafs.ca/sites/default/files ... Fraser.pdf

It looks like the early Sockeye run is what they call the "Stuart run."

So I'm thinking that would be Stuart river coming out of Stuart lake around Fort St. James.

That run is twitchy. They've shut fishing down in the past. I think they shut it down last year.

I can draw all sorts of conclusions from the data at the link. My conclusions wouldn't be scientific though.

This is interesting:

$1:

• Early and Late Stuart sockeye have
declined since the 1990’s, in some cases
severely (Driftwood River population).

• Populations went through similar
fluctuations during the 1960’s and 1970’s,
suggesting that recovery may be possible
if habitat conditions remain suitable and
harvest rates are kept down.

[Coach85]

What a shitty article. Alarmist nonsense.

The media is so worried about creating a reaction from people, the quality of the 'journalism' is just shit.

[N_Fiddledog]

CBC reporter goes looking for something 'Global Warming' scary to say about week long central BC heatwave.

Film at 11.

See us next summer for more.