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Title: California drought forces Santa Barbara to reopen mothballed desalination plant
Category: Environmental
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2015-04-29 09:17:03

[Freakinoldguy]

I was about to say that common sense was prevailing till I read this.

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Hence the frequent lawsuits from environmental groups hoping to stop them, notes Sarah Sikich, the vice-president of the Santa Monica-based Heal the Bay environmental group.

I guess the question here is. Do you want to make the ocean slightly more salty over a long period of time or do you want California, all it's produce, all it's people and all resources to just disappear?

We know where Sarah Sikich stands on the issue but, I wonder if her Heal the Bay environmental group will harbour the same love for the ocean when it finds it self relocated to Bozeman Montana?

[Vamp018]

"do you want California, all it's produce, all it's people and all resources to just disappear?"

Hell No, nobody in NV, AZ and TX wants them clowns. They can stay there and eat there own dumb pie mess they made themselves.

[Jabberwalker]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

I was about to say that common sense was prevailing till I read this.

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Hence the frequent lawsuits from environmental groups hoping to stop them, notes Sarah Sikich, the vice-president of the Santa Monica-based Heal the Bay environmental group.

I guess the question here is. Do you want to make the ocean slightly more salty over a long period of time or do you want California, all it's produce, all it's people and all resources to just disappear?

We know where Sarah Sikich stands on the issue but, I wonder if her Heal the Bay environmental group will harbour the same love for the ocean when it finds it self relocated to Bozeman Montana?

Removing a bit of water that will ultimately return to the sea anyway will not make the ocean any saltier. There are local concentrations of salt around the discharge pipes.

[Vamp018]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

I was about to say that common sense was prevailing till I read this.

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Hence the frequent lawsuits from environmental groups hoping to stop them, notes Sarah Sikich, the vice-president of the Santa Monica-based Heal the Bay environmental group.

I guess the question here is. Do you want to make the ocean slightly more salty over a long period of time or do you want California, all it's produce, all it's people and all resources to just disappear?

We know where Sarah Sikich stands on the issue but, I wonder if her Heal the Bay environmental group will harbour the same love for the ocean when it finds it self relocated to Bozeman Montana?

Removing a bit of water that will ultimately return to the sea anyway will not make the ocean any saltier. There are local concentrations of salt around the discharge pipes.

Study Texas, they don't have any issue's doing this during there long drought. Jabber has a point of order "Removing a bit of water that will ultimately return to the sea anyway will not make the ocean any saltier. There are local concentrations of salt around the discharge pipes." I know that personally from living in Corpus Christi for a while.

[Regina]

If they build discharge pipe further out into the ocean or at depth where the current is stronger, it would probably be dispersed and unnoticeable to the environment.

[PluggyRug]

And yet they keep on building more subdivisions in an area that is essentially a desert.

[Freakinoldguy]

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quote="Vamp018"]

Removing a bit of water that will ultimately return to the sea anyway will not make the ocean any saltier. There are local concentrations of salt around the discharge pipes.



Study Texas, they don't have any issue's doing this during there long drought. Jabber has a point of order "Removing a bit of water that will ultimately return to the sea anyway will not make the ocean any saltier. There are local concentrations of salt around the discharge pipes." I know that personally from living in Corpus Christi for a while.

The point I was getting at was, you'd think this technology would be the norm now not the exception, especially given the fact that the people who most strongly oppose it are the ones who claim the earth is warming causing more severe droughts.

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. Stop global warming but, don't do anything to mitigate the effects of what they say has already, irreversibly happened.

Planetary death wish, maybe?

[BeaverFever]

Well, it seems that there probably are legitimate things to consider with desalination plants.

They're not "100% win-win" or "0% impact" endeavors and people shouldn't pretend they are ven if they are the plant is the best option or the 'least worst' option.

And the organization isn't as extreme as it's made to be:

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Desalination

Southern California's exploding population is going to need more and more fresh water, for drinking and home use, and irrigation as well. Currently there are 19 proposed desalination plants along the coast. Desalination, or the process of sucking in sea water and removing the salt to convert it to fresh water, might seem like a decent way to get more fresh water, but we need to perfect our water conservation and recycling efforts first. One of the problems with desalination is that the plants produce a super concentrated salty brine, which is simply discharged right back into the ocean. This discharge might create spots in the Santa Monica Bay that are so salty marine life can't survive. But some of the proposed desalination plants are an even bigger problem. They would be built at the same location as an outdated power plant, and use the same water that the power plant sucks in. Reusing things is great, but in this case the desalination plant might exempt the power plant from updating their technology. So the desalination would be the excuse that the power plant uses to keep sucking in millions of gallons of sea water each day. That's just not a good idea.


Heal the Bay’s position on desalination:
We are following the issue through proposed local desalination facilities and the State Water Resources Control Board's desalination policy development process. As an organization, Heal the Bay is not against desalination. We believe that water conservation and reuse should be maximized before energy intensive desalination is pursued. If desalination plants are approved, Heal the Bay believes that they must use the best technology available to minimize marine life mortality and keep water quality clean.

http://www.healthebay.org/about-bay/cur ... akes#desal