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andyt
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:35 am
Well, let's ban alcohol then. Works so well for pot.
Class 1 carcinogen, same as asbestos - that's heavy.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:38 am
Curtman? is that you?
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:43 am
Well, good. Because I don't live in Ontario.
*hic*
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andyt
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Posts: 33492
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:15 am
never understood the hic thing. I didn't hiccup when I got drunk, didn't know anybody who did.
Anyway, alcohol also causes brain damage, so i guess you don't really notice the cancer as much.
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OnTheIce 
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:20 am
andyt andyt: Anyway, alcohol also causes brain damage Heavy drinker, are we?
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Regina 
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Posts: 32460
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:25 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Well, good. Because I don't live in Ontario.
*hic* 
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Posts: 53391
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:29 am
andyt andyt: never understood the hic thing. Goes back to the Andy Capp cartoons. 
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Posts: 65472
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:53 am
Next time I'm in Ontario the first round's on me! ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posts: 23084
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:15 am
If you believe the news, we can't breath the air we have, drink the water from our taps, eat the food we produce, etc.
I say everything in moderation...
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Posts: 8851
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:20 am
Cancer research is a cash cow. Got to keep coming up with 'reasons' to keep the donations flooding in.
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andyt
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Posts: 33492
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:22 am
bootlegga bootlegga: I say everything in moderation...
Sure, but when it's classed as the same hazard as asbestos, you don't breathe in moderate amounts of asbestos, do you?
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Posts: 23565
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:28 am
andyt andyt: bootlegga bootlegga: I say everything in moderation...
Sure, but when it's classed as the same hazard as asbestos, you don't breathe in moderate amounts of asbestos, do you? Ride your bike for the daily commute and you breathe in moderate amount of carcinogens too.
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andyt
CKA Uber
Posts: 33492
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:29 am
Yeah, that's true. Guess you can't get away from it. The health benefits of cycling outweigh the risks, tho, to my mind.
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Posts: 21665
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:48 am
Sigh. If I'm a scinetist looking at this report--which I am--my first question is why alcohol-related cancer is going up so much when alcohol consumption is modestly decreased in the last 40 or 50 years. No explanation. Has alcohoil chnaged? We drink more wine and less spirits, so is it the wine? Is there some mutagenic property of alcohol previously unaccounted for? If so, to what cause did we previously assign alcohol-related cancers. Nothing. Nothing. And Nothing.
It's the same with these smoking studies that show ramped up casualites from smoking despite very significant decreases in the use of tobacco.
The recommednations of the report (which are all policy recommendations) point to the reason why this is: the policies were desired prior to the study. The study was an exercise in confirmation bias.
We have a similar outfit in BC (Centre for Addiction Research at UVic). Proponents of this Big Government "Health Promotion" approach dreamed up by the UN, of course, to extend the reach of governance. Essentially an advoicacy agency masquerading as science.
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