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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:30 pm
 


Title: Parti Quebecois wins minority in Quebec election | CTVNews
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: Canadaka
Date: 2012-09-04 20:17:45
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:30 pm
 


Best result of a bad situation I guess.


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Let the referendum begin Ms Marois. People continually say that it's a minority of Quebecers who want seperation but results like this show that to be a lie. A larger percentage of Quebec voters would appear to want seperation than the rest of Canada is being led to believe.

It's a tired old tactic of this Province to elect a seperatist government and then try and extort more out of the federal Gov't. Hopefully this time the Federal Government says no more and puts Quebec on the spot where they'll have to either shit or get off the pot.


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Let the referendum begin Ms Marois. People continually say that it's a minority of Quebecers who want seperation but results like this show that to be a lie. A larger percentage of Quebec voters would appear to want seperation than the rest of Canada is being led to believe.

It's a tired old tactic of this Province to elect a seperatist government and then try and extort more out of the federal Gov't. Hopefully this time the Federal Government says no more and puts Quebec on the spot where they'll have to either shit or get off the pot.

How is 31% a majority?
If she tries to pass a referendum with that number, she's crazier than I thought.

In related news...
From a 70 year low 54% voter turnout in 2008, 71% of Québecers voted yesterday.


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raydan raydan:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Let the referendum begin Ms Marois. People continually say that it's a minority of Quebecers who want seperation but results like this show that to be a lie. A larger percentage of Quebec voters would appear to want seperation than the rest of Canada is being led to believe.

It's a tired old tactic of this Province to elect a seperatist government and then try and extort more out of the federal Gov't. Hopefully this time the Federal Government says no more and puts Quebec on the spot where they'll have to either shit or get off the pot.

How is 31% a majority?
If she tries to pass a referendum with that number, she's crazier than I thought.

In related news...
From a 70 year low 54% voter turnout in 2008, 71% of Québecers voted yesterday.



He never claimed it was a majority, just a larger percentage than what's typically claimed.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:31 am
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
raydan raydan:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Let the referendum begin Ms Marois. People continually say that it's a minority of Quebecers who want seperation but results like this show that to be a lie. A larger percentage of Quebec voters would appear to want seperation than the rest of Canada is being led to believe.

It's a tired old tactic of this Province to elect a seperatist government and then try and extort more out of the federal Gov't. Hopefully this time the Federal Government says no more and puts Quebec on the spot where they'll have to either shit or get off the pot.

How is 31% a majority?
If she tries to pass a referendum with that number, she's crazier than I thought.

In related news...
From a 70 year low 54% voter turnout in 2008, 71% of Québecers voted yesterday.



He never claimed it was a majority, just a larger percentage than what's typically claimed.

In 2008, the PQ got 51 seats with 35,17% of the votes.
Yesterday, they got 54 seats with 31,94 of the votes.

I don't see that as more separatistes.
Seems that most of the votes the Liberal party lost went to the CAQ.

Not the best result, as the PQ has a minority government, but I can only hope that she royally screws up and gets a large ass kicking from a Liberal/CAQ coalition.


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raydan raydan:
In 2008, the PQ got 51 seats with 35,17% of the votes.
Yesterday, they got 54 seats with 31,94 of the votes.

I don't see that as more separatistes.
Seems that most of the votes the Liberal party lost went to the CAQ.

Not the best result, as the PQ has a minority government, but I can only hope that she royally screws up and gets a large ass kicking from a Liberal/CAQ coalition.



Again, he's not saying there are more this time....or a majority as you initially said, he's simply saying that the percentage of people who are for seperation is larger than Quebec as a whole would like us to beleive.

You hear on the news that a "small percentage" of Quebecers support separation yet over 1/3 of the voters sided with the PQ.


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Must be the difference in perspective. What I see is that the PQ has been steadily losing votes since 1994 where they had almost 45%.

How much that of that 32% today would translate to a vote for separation, I have no idea.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:24 am
 


Ugh, here we go again...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:33 am
 


Westmont... has always been Liberal. :lol:
P.L.Q. - 67,49%
C.A.Q. - 13,02%
P.Q. - 7,49 %

D'Arcy-McGee... even better, PQ isn't even in the top 3.
P.L.Q. - 84,72%
C.A.Q. - 7,37%
Q.S. - 3,75%


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:49 am
 


raydan raydan:
In related news...
From a 70 year low 54% voter turnout in 2008, 71% of Québecers voted yesterday.

That's a fairly good voter turnout anyway.

raydan raydan:
Not the best result, as the PQ has a minority government, but I can only hope that she royally screws up and gets a large ass kicking from a Liberal/CAQ coalition.

I guess we'll see what happens with that. :lol:
I really don't want to see the separation referendum process take place again. Even though Quebec-related issues can be a pain, it would be a shame to break-up the country.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:51 am
 


$1:
According to the same poll, there is no danger of an imminent separation as Quebecers have no great desire to separate. 38 per cent of decided individuals would vote in favour of sovereignty, a number higher than it was in 1999 – but much lower than the 47 per cent of Quebecers who said they would choose to separate in a 1990 poll.

“Support for separation in Quebec isn’t that high,” said Bricker. “The hard core separatist group in Quebec is about 30, which it has been forever.”



Guess even all the separatists didn't vote for the PQ.

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The poll shows that 49 per cent of Canadians outside of Quebec agree with the statement that they “don’t really care if Quebec separates from Canada.” The other half disagrees.



Read it on Global News: Global News | Half of Canadians outside Quebec say they don’t care if Quebec separates: poll


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:57 am
 


Strutz Strutz:
I really don't want to see the separation referendum process take place again. Even though Quebec-related issues can be a pain, it would be a shame to break-up the country.

I think it would be polical suicide for Mme. Marois to call for a referendum. The only way for her to gain support for separation would be to cause as much shit as she can and blame the Federal Government for all of it. But even that will be tricky since she has a minority.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:05 am
 


andyt andyt:
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According to the same poll, there is no danger of an imminent separation as Quebecers have no great desire to separate. 38 per cent of decided individuals would vote in favour of sovereignty, a number higher than it was in 1999 – but much lower than the 47 per cent of Quebecers who said they would choose to separate in a 1990 poll.

“Support for separation in Quebec isn’t that high,” said Bricker. “The hard core separatist group in Quebec is about 30, which it has been forever.”



Guess even all the separatists didn't vote for the PQ.


You are right. There was a radical separatist party this time (Option nationale) that forked from the PQ last year because it was not "enough separatist". Parizeau gave them his support. A lot of young dreamers voted for it since it was very active in social media. They got about 2%. There's also Quebec solidaire, a far-left party, that is also separatist but it's not the first priority for them and some leftwing federalists, even Anglos!, voted for them. But one thing is sure, the separation option is no longer an important subject here.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:11 am
 


The minority should be able to keep her in check, assuming the other parties can work together to shoot down any new forms of idiocy she tries to spread.


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