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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:45 pm
You're acting like there's something to prove.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:47 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: CommanderSock CommanderSock: If Canada's sovereignty is at stake, so be it. Almost all Canadians, including new immigrants will step up. I doubt it. You have too many groups in Canada who see themselves as other than Canadian and they're just not going to be loyal to a country in which loyalty to the country has been soundly denounced for the past twenty years or more. In Canada it is more important to be French, First Nations, muslim, Sikh, Hindu, Chinese, Polish, a "global citizen", and etc. than it is to be Canadian. At the same time, I expect an apology from all those asshats who called me paranoid when I told them, repeatedly, that Canada has enemies who eye her resources with covetous intent. The perfect storm for Canada's future would be to elect another passionately anti-American government right at the same time Russia moves to seize your resources. Try inspiring an America that can't stomach losing 4,000 soldiers in a war to send her youth to fight for a Canada whose government openly hates us. The best you'll get are some volunteers, like myself, who'd be willing to come put on a Maple Leaf and help out. If Russia did seize our resources, it would only be because the USA gave them the thumbs up they way they did Saddam vis-a-vis Kuwait. The USA would never allow another nation, especially one with a history of hostility to the US, to set up shop next door to it. An attack on Canada would be met much in the same way nukes placed in Cuba was. If the right president was in power, it would be met with deadly force. And seeing as we're a member of NATO, I'd expect about 2 dozen other countries to step to if we were attacked. I don't doubt that a lot of immigrants would join up. Canadians have always stepped up to the plate when their our turn to bat. Even Quebeckers were willing to defend Canada, they just weren't willing to go overseas for what they perceived (wrongly I might add) as the UK's war.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:47 pm
Chagrin Chagrin: Don't go there man. You weren't even a country, and it was the British who did everything. I'll go there - what about the Natives and the French? Whoops. And in that whole revolutionary war thingy wasn't it just the English settlers and the French in revolt? Oh...and you weren't a country and the start of that either. 
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:49 pm
Chagrin Chagrin: Don't go there man. You weren't even a country, and it was the British who did everything. (1) the US wasn't a country in their revolutionary war, yet is still considered one of America's greatest victories (2) the US invaded (what was soon to become) Canada, and was repelled by (what were soon to become) Canadians. The war, like your revolutionary war, was instrumental in our becoming a nation. However, I know that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is handing over apologies for past acts, so in keeping with that spirit, I'd like to apologize to America for the ASS-WHOMPIN' that we delivered them in the War of 1812. In the immortal words of Canadian folk classic: $1: And the white house burned, burned, burned. And we're the ones that did it, It burned, burned, burned. While the president ran and cried, It burned, burned, burned. And things were very historical, And the Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies Wah-Wah-Wah In the war of 1812.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:55 pm
Except you weren't Canadian, you didn't give an ASS WHOMPIN' to anyone. It was the British.
Also; you can't burn concrete.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:03 pm
Chagrin Chagrin: Except you weren't Canadian, you didn't give an ASS WHOMPIN' to anyone. It was the British.
Also; you can't burn concrete. Look, I know you're defensive about the whole thing, which is why I want to say sorry for the ASS-WHOMPIN' we delivered. It must have been a humiliating blow for such a big and mighty country like the US to have been ASS-WHOMPED so convincingly when they innocently came in to liberate Canada and then ran home so fast they forgot to take thier culture. 
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:05 pm
$1: Don't go there man. You weren't even a country, and it was the British who did everything. Not true. Canada as a nation may not have existed until 1867, but Canada was on the map in the form of Upper and Lower Canada, it was Canadian Militia at Lundy's Lane, and at the Burning of Washington.there were 10,000 provincial militiathat took part during the war. We burned most of the public offices (inc. the White House) in Washington. but hey I guess it would suck to get you ass kicked by a political non-entity. THANKS FOR THE BBQ uncle sam!
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:09 pm
You're doing the usual thing of plugging your ears and going "la la la la I can't hear you." Listen, as an American, I will agree that it's typical for us to say we won. We didn't. You all didn't either because until 1867 you were just a British colony. The Treaty of Ghent made things as it were, restoring relations between the 2 countries, The United Kingdom and the United States. Canada cannot claim to ahve one because of the aforementioned fact. If anyone 'won' it was the British. I will admit that, but saying canada won and burned the White House is pure lunacy. I realize this is a hot topic for both of our nations, and it's pointless arguing it because it just involves pissing on eachother. Mustang, you have a good point so I won't bother to address that.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:15 pm
Chagrin Chagrin: Except you weren't Canadian, you didn't give an ASS WHOMPIN' to anyone. It was the British.
Also; you can't burn concrete. We didnt burn it,just scorched it and ate the huge feast that was laid out,it was pink at the time and whitewashed after the raid....thus,it's now called the white house.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:17 pm
Dont worry Chagrin,we dont feel you got beaten as much as we were tougher.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:19 pm
Canada existed before 1867, again Upper and Lower Canada existed during that time, a nation doesn't have to declare its independence to exist, I don't expect you to understand this. Canada has existed since the first explorers and settlers landed here 400 plus years ago. you don't need to be a political entity to be a nation. Canadian Militia took part in the war, so therefore Canadians took part.
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Tokimini
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:21 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: BartSimpson BartSimpson: CommanderSock CommanderSock: If Canada's sovereignty is at stake, so be it. Almost all Canadians, including new immigrants will step up. I doubt it. You have too many groups in Canada who see themselves as other than Canadian and they're just not going to be loyal to a country in which loyalty to the country has been soundly denounced for the past twenty years or more. In Canada it is more important to be French, First Nations, muslim, Sikh, Hindu, Chinese, Polish, a "global citizen", and etc. than it is to be Canadian. At the same time, I expect an apology from all those asshats who called me paranoid when I told them, repeatedly, that Canada has enemies who eye her resources with covetous intent. The perfect storm for Canada's future would be to elect another passionately anti-American government right at the same time Russia moves to seize your resources. Try inspiring an America that can't stomach losing 4,000 soldiers in a war to send her youth to fight for a Canada whose government openly hates us. The best you'll get are some volunteers, like myself, who'd be willing to come put on a Maple Leaf and help out. If Russia did seize our resources, it would only be because the USA gave them the thumbs up they way they did Saddam vis-a-vis Kuwait. The USA would never allow another nation, especially one with a history of hostility to the US, to set up shop next door to it. An attack on Canada would be met much in the same way nukes placed in Cuba was. If the right president was in power, it would be met with deadly force. And seeing as we're a member of NATO, I'd expect about 2 dozen other countries to step to if we were attacked. NATO?? The same NATO that's sitting on it's hands in Afganistan? The same NATO that did nothing when the Falklands were invaded? The same NATO that gets most of it's oil and natural gas from those resource grabbing Russians? I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for NATO to help Canada against the Russians if I were you.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:21 pm
Chagrin Chagrin: :roll:
You're doing the usual thing of plugging your ears and going "la la la la I can't hear you."
Listen, as an American, I will agree that it's typical for us to say we won. We didn't. You all didn't either because until 1867 you were just a British colony. The Treaty of Ghent made things as it were, restoring relations between the 2 countries, The United Kingdom and the United States. Canada cannot claim to ahve one because of the aforementioned fact. If anyone 'won' it was the British. I will admit that, but saying canada won and burned the White House is pure lunacy. I realize this is a hot topic for both of our nations, and it's pointless arguing it because it just involves pissing on eachother.
Mustang, you have a good point so I won't bother to address that. Nonsnese, it deosn't piss me off at all. It's one of my favourite subjects.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:23 pm
llama66 llama66: Canada existed before 1867, again Upper and Lower Canada existed during that time, a nation doesn't have to declare its independence to exist, I don't expect you to understand this. Canada has existed since the first explorers and settlers landed here 400 plus years ago. you don't need to be a political entity to be a nation. Canadian Militia took part in the war, so therefore Canadians took part. I still have a huge map from that time,it used to hang on the wall at the inn on the border.The west was a territory then.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:25 pm
llama66 llama66: Canada existed before 1867, again Upper and Lower Canada existed during that time, a nation doesn't have to declare its independence to exist, I don't expect you to understand this. Canada has existed since the first explorers and settlers landed here 400 plus years ago. you don't need to be a political entity to be a nation. Canadian Militia took part in the war, so therefore Canadians took part. You're not listening. You were still a British colony. true, the land on which they were fought was called Upper and Lower Canada, but you didn't EXIST. You were still a COLONY. Also; the 'burning' of thw White House was in response to the burning of York, Ontario.
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