[kenmore]

this is true... he cannot stop this.. but this I am sure will come back to bite them in the ass......

[kevlarman]

This is so wrong. Tax payer dollars should not go to a school that promotes segregation.

[ryan29]

kenmore kenmore:

no actually it doesnt ... McGuinty is not in favour of this at all. he said so many times.. the point being is that the school board has the right to do this... his point about faith based schools is well taken and that is how John Tory got into trouble.. and before we go there... Catholic schools are public schools so he didnt break any election promises.............yet..

well agree he is saying he is against it but fact remains the school is going to be happening on his watch . and after his campaign to stop schools like this from happening in the first place .

wonder if he will try and blame harper and federal government for this one ?


simply the man has absolutley no credibility and breaks all his election promises eventually . wait a few months and he will break more i bet.

[Mustang1]

ryan29 ryan29:

McGuinty against plan for black-focused public school

By Maria Babbage, THE CANADIAN PRESS



Mandel: TDSB's plan for black school full of aspirations but has few answers

Black-focused schools unlikely to pop up in rest of Canada: expert

Toronto black school approved



What is your opinion?


Black-focused school approved





TORONTO - Ontario's Liberal government won't prevent Canada's largest school board from establishing a controversial new black-focused school - a position critics say flies in the face of the party's much-touted opposition to funding religious schools, which helped propel it to victory in the last election.

Premier Dalton McGuinty frowned Thursday on the Toronto District School Board's plans for the black-focused school, but said it wouldn't be up to the province to take action against the publicly funded board.

"I am disappointed with the board's decision," McGuinty said.

"I don't support it and we won't fund it. I continue to believe that the best way for us to educate our children is to bring them together so they can come together, learn together and grow together."

The McGuinty Liberals cruised to victory in the fall election largely on the controversy surrounding his rival John Tory's unpopular promise to extend public funding to faith-based schools. The issue dominated the campaign and cost the Progressive Conservatives support.

Opposition critics, still licking their wounds from their October defeat, accused the premier of trying to have it both ways.

"He's a hypocrite to say that he can't take any action," said Conservative Elizabeth Witmer. "He could be working with the board and saying, 'OK, you've got a problem."'

Witmer said high dropout rates and underachieving students are problems across the province, not just in Toronto, and creating a black-focused school isn't the answer.

"Before you know it, you're going to have another group at some point in time . . . say, 'You know what? We'd like to set up a school for our students because of this reason."'

Education Minister Kathleen Wynne insisted there's a difference between the province's support for a school board planning to establish a black-focused school and the contentious issue of extending public funds to religious schools.

"This is a student achievement issue and the board is acting on its right to set up an alternative school," said Wynne, who faced off against Tory for her Toronto seat.

"I believe that school boards are important institutions. I believe that they should have a degree of autonomy. So this board is acting within its purview."

McGuinty said Toronto District School Board trustees "leapt before they took a good look" in approving the plan, but that it was up to Toronto residents to decide if they wanted to try to stop the school by appealing to the board.

"What is really troubling for me is what about the 30,000-plus black students at the TDSB who are not going to get into this school or these schools?" he said.

"How does this assist them in a very direct way in improving the quality of their educational opportunities?"

Implementing the adopted recommendations to combat high dropout rates among black students, which includes the proposed black-focused school, is expected to cost the school board about $850,000, which McGuinty insists the province will not provide.

But he wouldn't say whether that means the province won't bail out the cash-strapped school board at the end of the year, as it has in the past.

"The point I'm making today is that we're not going to be providing any additional funding for this particular new policy," McGuinty said.

Board officials, who are projecting a $41-million deficit, have said they will find the money for the school in their $2.3-billion budget.

The school was among four recommendations approved Tuesday following a narrow vote and months of heated debate.

Critics fear the "Afrocentric" school, slated to open by September 2009, will further divide an already fragmented student population and open the door to school segregation on the basis of religion and ethnicity.

The proposed school has been billed as a Canadian first, although an elementary school that teaches the provincial curriculum in the predominantly black community of North Preston, N.S., operates with an Afrocentric philosophy.

The board's director of education, Gerry Connelly, suggested Wednesday that the board would be open to establishing more than one black-focused school if there was sufficient demand.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008 ... 08-cp.html


so he's against it but won't do anything to stop it , why i'm i not surprised looks like pinocio premier is back, anyone want to guess what election promise he will break next ?

How would he stop it? Brilliant. He should run roughshod over a democratic decision? I'll be eagerly awaiting your response on this one

[Mustang1]

ryan29 ryan29:

well agree he is saying he is against it but fact remains the school is going to be happening on his watch . and after his campaign to stop schools like this from happening in the first place .

What?!?!?! Do you ever have a clue? This is a perfectly legal decision. It's the TDSB's to make. It adheres to curriculum standards. Seriously, take a break.

$1:

wonder if he will try and blame harper and federal government for this one ?

Yes, he is going to whine about the federal government in a jurisdiction area reserved for PROVINCES. Get an education and quit promulgating your ignorance

$1:

simply the man has absolutley no credibility and breaks all his election promises eventually . wait a few months and he will break more i bet.

He breaks ALL his elections promises. Do tell, great sage.

[PJB]

I can see that this idea will go along the same route as the native schools. In one word it is SEGRAGATION, plain and simple. The only difference between these types of schools and those in the deep south in the 50's and 60's is that it is not the whites that want segragation it is every other race.

[ryan29]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

ryan29 ryan29:

well agree he is saying he is against it but fact remains the school is going to be happening on his watch . and after his campaign to stop schools like this from happening in the first place .

What?!?!?! Do you ever have a clue? This is a perfectly legal decision. It's the TDSB's to make. It adheres to curriculum standards. Seriously, take a break.

$1:

wonder if he will try and blame harper and federal government for this one ?

Yes, he is going to whine about the federal government in a jurisdiction area reserved for PROVINCES. Get an education and quit promulgating your ignorance

$1:

simply the man has absolutley no credibility and breaks all his election promises eventually . wait a few months and he will break more i bet.

He breaks ALL his elections promises. Do tell, great sage.

well he seems to blame everyone else for all his problems it seems so why not try to balme someone else for stuff like this , now he can blame the TDSB for allowing school to open . and claim he has no control over the situation even though he is the premier of the province.

[Mustang1]

ryan29 ryan29:

Mustang1 Mustang1:

ryan29 ryan29:

well agree he is saying he is against it but fact remains the school is going to be happening on his watch . and after his campaign to stop schools like this from happening in the first place .

What?!?!?! Do you ever have a clue? This is a perfectly legal decision. It's the TDSB's to make. It adheres to curriculum standards. Seriously, take a break.

$1:

wonder if he will try and blame harper and federal government for this one ?

Yes, he is going to whine about the federal government in a jurisdiction area reserved for PROVINCES. Get an education and quit promulgating your ignorance

$1:

simply the man has absolutley no credibility and breaks all his election promises eventually . wait a few months and he will break more i bet.

He breaks ALL his elections promises. Do tell, great sage.

well he seems to blame everyone else for all his problems it seems so why not try to balme someone else for stuff like this , now he can blame the TDSB for allowing school to open . and claim he has no control over the situation even though he is the premier of the province.

And tell me HOW he can legally overrule a school board's curricula implementation

[kenmore]

ryan29 athough you are trying your damnest to make this a political issue and aniti liberal thing it isnt.. he camaigned against faith based schools.. this is not a faith based school .. it is the brainchild of a special interest group who believe that black children are not receiving proper education... they seem to believe they learn differently.. my niece who lives in Toronto eamiled me to tell me that her daughter came home and told her ( she is 8yrs old) that the reason they were doing it was because black kids were special.... can you smell more racism coming .. ?

[Delwin]

I think there are some fundamental differences between having a faith-based school and having an afro-centric school which provide justification for the later.

First of all, there is no reason on paper why the dropout rate of black students should be higher than that of other students, just as, there is no reason on paper why their test scores should be lower, and no reason why their overall success rate should be lower. However, as indicated from the article, these disparities exist and are evidence of a cultural trend, a very bad cultural trend.

Now, knowing that this problem exists, let's try to imagine attempting to address the issue in a diverse environment. Can you image for one second, a principal of a school, holding a meeting in the auditorium gathering only the black students, and trying to get to the root of the matter ?

Or a teacher whom pays special attention to black students in an effort to address what has become a cultural trend among black students?

Any perception of inequality towards a single group would lead to cries of racism regardless of the intent.

In an Afro-centric school, these issues will be able to be addressed, from a position of better understanding and with a clearer focus, but most importantly without the perception of inequality.

In the case of faith based schools, I do not believe there is evidence of a difference between the various religions success rates and so the same argument does not work.

[ryan29]

kenmore kenmore:

ryan29 athough you are trying your damnest to make this a political issue and aniti liberal thing it isnt.. he camaigned against faith based schools.. this is not a faith based school .. it is the brainchild of a special interest group who believe that black children are not receiving proper education... they seem to believe they learn differently.. my niece who lives in Toronto eamiled me to tell me that her daughter came home and told her ( she is 8yrs old) that the reason they were doing it was because black kids were special.... can you smell more racism coming .. ?

well i'm not trying to turn it into a political issue and i suspect it allready is one anyways.

thing is dalton spent the entire previous election campaign traveling across the province pointing out why something like this ( similiar idea to faith based schools ) was a bad thing for our province and society .

so it doesn't look good that such a school will now be allowed to open under his watch . and might lead some to question why he choose to focus last election on opposition to faith based schools and then sit back and do nothing .

[Mustang1]

ryan29 ryan29:

kenmore kenmore:

ryan29 athough you are trying your damnest to make this a political issue and aniti liberal thing it isnt.. he camaigned against faith based schools.. this is not a faith based school .. it is the brainchild of a special interest group who believe that black children are not receiving proper education... they seem to believe they learn differently.. my niece who lives in Toronto eamiled me to tell me that her daughter came home and told her ( she is 8yrs old) that the reason they were doing it was because black kids were special.... can you smell more racism coming .. ?

well i'm not trying to turn it into a political issue and i suspect it allready is one anyways.

thing is dalton spent the entire previous election campaign traveling across the province pointing out why something like this ( similiar idea to faith based schools ) was a bad thing for our province and society .

so it doesn't look good that such a school will now be allowed to open under his watch . and might lead some to question why he choose to focus last election on opposition to faith based schools and then sit back and do nothing .

As per usual, you know absolutely squat about the junk you spew. The Education Act doesn't allow for faith-based schools but it does offer the ability to establish alternative schools. Please get a clue and stay out of political discussions as you gum them up with your ignorance and blind partisanship.

[ShepherdsDog]

I'm eagerly awaiting the Al Sharpton Skool of Bidness to open soon.

[kaetz]

Brenda Brenda:

I am SO glad my kids come home with a spelling test every week! It is the freakin most important thing!

just in what language?
you certainly do want them to be still able to speak and write in Dutch properly?

[kaetz]

martin14 martin14:

Regina Regina:

When I was in high school we had to learn how to use a slide rule, yet calculators were not allowed to be used in math class. The only thing I ever used that thing for was for drawing a straight line when I couldn't find a ruler.

oh man, how old are you??? Slide rules, my father used them.

we had calculators, but not for tests..


and speeling every week.. ... on purpose

I was born in 1982, i was not allowed to use calculator neither in class nor while doing my home work.
Till certain age my home work was controlled - the teacher checked my coloumns.
Thank them big time! I actually can use my head for something more than just eating into it!