[Thanos]

Oh, my sweet summer child, reality simply doesn't have a welcome place in your country anymore.

(still insanely in love your wild, maniac, bipolar, entertainingly dangerous, full-breasted, and round-buttocked country though - see today's contribution to the Hotties thread as proof!)

[stratos]

I had a peek

[BartSimpson]

ooooh shit...

A bunch of very damning documents about Biden have been posted by an investigative reporter named John Solomon...

https://www.scribd.com/user/259237201/JohnSolomon

[herbie]

who cares? Biden isn't the President.

[PluggyRug]

...but wants to be and that puts him in the crosshairs.

[PluggyRug]

[Caelon]

The impeachemnt proceedings are taking the focus off of other issues that have an impact on us like the ratification north american trade agreement. It is set to die on the books. China will likely hold off making a deal with an embattled president and hope for a different person later. That could backfire if Trump is re-electedand then decides he can take a harder stance in making a deal.

In the short term impeachment may get through congress, but there are not enough votes in the senate so it will be defeated there. Trump gains a foil in the process and can ridicule the democrats. Trumps bigger worry should be whether voters have had enough of him, his tweets and quasi scandals and just vote for a change to get some peace. US business would like an environment without all the disruption he has caused. So would the farm sector. His base will still support him and the question will be decided by the swing areas.

[BartSimpson]

Caelon Caelon:

The impeachemnt proceedings are taking the focus off of other issues that have an impact on us like the ratification north american trade agreement. It is set to die on the books. China will likely hold off making a deal with an embattled president and hope for a different person later. That could backfire if Trump is re-electedand then decides he can take a harder stance in making a deal.

That could REALLY backfire if the GOP takes back control of the House...something that is now more likely given that Democrat swing voters are not supporting this impeachment effort.

Caelon Caelon:

In the short term impeachment may get through congress, but there are not enough votes in the senate so it will be defeated there. Trump gains a foil in the process and can ridicule the democrats. Trumps bigger worry should be whether voters have had enough of him, his tweets and quasi scandals and just vote for a change to get some peace. US business would like an environment without all the disruption he has caused. So would the farm sector. His base will still support him and the question will be decided by the swing areas.

I really hope the Democrats put impeachment to a vote on the floor of the House...it will be epic to see the swing seat Democrats vote to save their asses instead of voting party line.

[N_Fiddledog]

And now...

Let's hear from Ann Coulter:

Get Ready To See Trump’s Face On Mount Rushmore

$1:

The transcript of President Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Zelensky is yet another illustration of the rule: Never ask a question you don’t know the answer to.

But on the basis of one drama queen’s overreaction to a rumor she’d heard about what was said on a phone call she didn’t hear (I’m assuming the whistleblower is Christine Blasey Ford), the Democrats have launched impeachment proceedings against the president.

I guess they figured it’s easier than flying to South Dakota with picks and chisels and carving Trump into Mount Rushmore. But it will have the same effect.

Now that the transcript has been released, it’s The New York Times that doesn’t want anyone to see it.

The transcript I’d like to see is the one of Nancy Pelosi reading the Trump transcript.

F@@@@@@CK! Whose f***ing idea was it to demand this goddamn transcript?
F@CK!
F@@CK!
F@@@CK!

The absolute worst version for Trump — i.e. the one being repeated non-stop on MSNBC — is that he did exactly what Obama and Biden were doing to Ukraine: intimidating an ally into giving us something in exchange for the foreign aid we were giving them.

Biden himself bragged about getting Ukraine’s prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold a big fat check from them.

The Democrats’ argument is: No, no, no! When WE were pressuring Ukraine, we were doing it for good! Don’t you understand? We’re good; they’re bad.

The other reason the media are going to have to bury this transcript is that Trump brought up a few items that the media have been hoping the public would never find out about.

Trump said: “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”

Well, that’s something the media haven’t mentioned before. Ninety-nine percent of Americans will be hearing about the funny business with Biden’s son, Hunter, for the first time with the release of this transcript.

Why did Vice President Biden order the Ukrainian president to fire the prosecutor investigating the Ukrainian company paying his son millions of dollars? Are Democrats claiming that this company was clean as a whistle and it was an absolute OUTRAGE that it was being investigated?

Ukraine was looking into the company that conveniently placed Hunter Biden on its board long before Trump came on the scene. Something must have made the Ukrainian prosecutor want to investigate Biden’s company — and it sure wasn’t to curry favor with the Obama/Biden administration.

The second issue the media does not want anyone to think about is CrowdStrike.

What is CrowdStrike, you ask? That is the cybersecurity firm that is the sole source of the claim that the Russians hacked the DNC’s emails — which launched the conspiracy theories that tied our country in knots for the past three years.

The Russian collusion story was originally hatched by Hillary Clinton in the summer of 2016 to cover up the utter corruption revealed by the dump of Democratic National Committee emails on Wikileaks. As was her practice whenever a scandal threatened to engulf her, Hillary rushed out and told the press to investigate something else.

And “the great story” about the DNC email hack wasn’t about a “vast right-wing conspiracy” — as she claimed when the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. No, this time, it was a vast Russian conspiracy!

At the time, the entire media laughed at Hillary’s Russian conspiracy nonsense — The New York Times, New York Newsday, the Los Angeles Times and so on. But then Trump won the election, and suddenly the Russia conspiracy seemed totally believable. What else could explain how Americans could put this boob in the White House?

The subsequent three years of breathless Russia coverage was based entirely on the word of one cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike, that the DNC’s emails had been hacked by Russia.

Recall that the DNC wouldn’t allow the FBI or any other U.S. government official anywhere near its computers. That’s precisely why so many cybersecurity experts doubted that it was the Russians: The FBI was never allowed to perform its own investigation.

CrowdStrike was founded by Ukrainian Dmitri Alperovitch (now an American citizen apparently — because who isn’t?) and funded by the fanatically anti-Russian Ukrainian oligarch Viktor Pinchuk Foundation.

Talk about interfering with our democracy! Alperovitch and Pinchuk sent one political party and nine-tenths of the American media off on a wild goose chase into Russian collusion that, after years of accusations, investigations and embarrassing conspiracy-mongering … turned up goose eggs.

The entire Russian insanity was launched by a couple of Ukrainians. I think a lot of us would like to get to the bottom of that.

This is why Trump said to President Zelensky: “I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike … I guess you have one of your wealthy people … The server, they say Ukraine has it.”

(How’d you like to be the Ukrainian translator for a Trump conversation?)

Trump has been justly criticized for hiring his daughter and son-in-law at the White House. But at least when he pressures a foreign leader for a favor, it’s to investigate corruption, not to get a prosecutor off his son’s back. Maybe Biden’s son was guilty, maybe he was innocent. But it is a fact that Joe Biden held up foreign aid to a desperately needy ally in exchange for their halting prosecution that implicated his son. It’s not Trump’s fault that Biden is now running for president.

I’ll give the Democrats this: They’ve gotten so good at trying to remove Trump from office that, instead of three years, their insane accusations blow up in their faces within a week.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/25/coul ... -rushmore/

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Listening to local radio news (KFBK) and they're saying the whistleblower report has nothing in it that can be used in any court of law. It's all second and third hand hearsay with lots of the usual anonymous and unknown sources in it.

Big nothinburger.

Again.

Impeachment isn't a court of law. Nor is it a conviction.

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Five-thirty-eight (liberal) has his approval rising 1% since the Dems announced impeachment.

Wrong.

It was announced 2 days ago (day 978), he has dropped .3%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

Additionally, it's putting him at 42.8 percent. I like how you left that part out.

$1:

Rasmussen (center right) has him up over 50% since September 16th.

Also wrong. Since Sept 16th, he has been below 50% three times, including today.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... ex_history

$1:

NBC/WSJ (center-left) says Trump has his highest approval rating since taking office at 45%

Also wrong, it's not his highest point. They had him at 46% in May and February. Plus higher at several points in 2018. Additionally that was released 4 days ago (and taken from Sept 13-16), before most of this shit really hit the fan, and is likely no longer relevant.

$1:

Daily Wire says 50% and rising

If you honestly believe that the daily wire has the capability of conducting a valid poll, I have a bridge to sell you. Additionally, they're likely just reporting Rasmussen's results, since I can't find any thing about a poll they conducted themselves, only reporting Resmussen's.

$1:

RCP has Trump rising across four separate polls but still below 50%

And he went down in three others. But lets not mention those.

$1:

Overall, this impeachment nonsense would seem to be helping Trump and not hurting him even according to the liberal polls.

Maybe if you're incapable of reading data (or intentionally misleading people). Which one are you?

Any other easily verifiable claims you want to make so that I can smack you with actual facts?

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

More on Biden's profiteering in Ukraine...

$1:

The former Prosecutor General of Ukraine Viktor Shokin said in an interview to the “Strana.ua” news agency why the former Vice President of the United States Joseph Biden, connected to lobbying business of the former Minister of Ecology Nikolay Zlochevsky, ordered the president Petro Poroshenko to dismiss him.

Shokin said that he was not going to “back away” from the “case of Burisma“, the company of Zlochevsky, the board of which Biden’s son joined soon after Euromaidan, the former president of Poland Aleksander Kwasniewski and also Devon Archer (the close friend of the stepson of the US Secretary of State John Kerry). The work of board members was generously paid.

“The president said to me repeatedly that Biden demanded that I was moved away. A report on the work done by me was prepared, it was sent to deputies, and posted Prosecutor-General of Ukraine on the website. If to take these reports, they many times differ from what my predecessors could do. There was no objective ground for dismissal,” explained the former Prosecutor General concerning Joe Biden’s motives.

He added that Biden engaged himself with him very seriously. “He promised Poroshenko that he will bring compromising evidence on me about corruption. He arrived in December 2015, spoke in the Verkhovna Rada, said nothing about it, and left. So then I went to Bankova Street. The conversation was as such: ‘Well, did Biden dig up corruption?’ ― ‘Vitya, he did not bring anything against me’. ― ‘So what will we do?’ ― ‘F*ck him!’. Approximately like this. After all, you understand that if the Vice President of the United States had proof of my corruption, then he would surely use all of this for his aims,” said Viktor Shokin.

READ: Kiev Imposes an Alternative to the "Normandy Format" He noted that there were regular ultimatums, and he finally crossed the line on February 2nd 2016 when the prosecutor’s office came in court with requests to re-impose arrests on the property of Burisma.

“I assume that then the president received another call from Biden, blackmail via the non-allocation of a loan… Poroshenko then surrendered,” said Shokin, who was dismissed on April 3rd 2016.

Imagine believing a word Shokin says.

Do you just gravitate to corrupt people?

[Tricks]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

:idea:

What crime did Biden commit?

[Tricks]

Recording just released of Trump implying whoever leaked the information about the call should be executed.

He knows there are whistleblower laws for a reason right? Fucking wannabe despot.

[fifeboy]

WAR...WAR...WAR...ATTACK IRAQN

WMD...DRONES ATTACKED...DRONE ATTACKS... TURBANS...AHHHHHGGGG...