[Proculation]

We already know BP is at fault. They were supposed to drill a safety well, they did not. They were supposed to installed a more expensive valve, they didn't.

Yes, there need to be better regulations.

[Public_Domain]

[Brenda]

Well, like someone said somewhere: Hurricane season starts Tuesday...

[Proculation]

Oil is not supposed to be black ????

(crappy joke)

[PimpBrewski123]

Transmission oil ''fluid'' is red coloured.

[Dragom]

At this awkward stage is it just time to drill the oil faster, depleting the pocket and limiting the Environmental harm?

[Proculation]

Dragom Dragom:

At this awkward stage is it just time to drill the oil faster, depleting the pocket and limiting the Environmental harm?

I've read today that Obama sent some nuclear physicists.

Soviet Union used little nukes to shut down oil/gas wells that went berserk like that in the 60s-70s. They did it 5 times. It worked the 5 times.

If the Soviets could do it...

[Benn]

Proculation Proculation:

Dragom Dragom:

At this awkward stage is it just time to drill the oil faster, depleting the pocket and limiting the Environmental harm?

I've read today that Obama sent some nuclear physicists.

Soviet Union used little nukes to shut down oil/gas wells that went berserk like that in the 60s-70s. They did it 5 times. It worked the 5 times.

If the Soviets could do it...

Hey ShepherdsDog already suggested that. White house must be following Canadaka.net

[Zipperfish]

Brenda Brenda:

Did everyone forget the BP rented this rig? Why is the not-replacing of the vault their fault, or responsibility? I think they are doing a pretty good job, and I think the whole oil-industry should get their hands dirty on this one.

For a few reasons. It's known, for example, that there assessments submitted to federal agencies stated that there was little chance of a spill, and ever if there were one, it wouldn't reach shore. They misinformed people from the start about the extent of the spill. Then they used tens of thousands of gallons of a toxic treating agent to hide the spill from the surface, that has now introduced neutrally buoyant oil "storm clouds" floating around underwater.

Most damning--and just rumour at this point--is that they overruled the contract company doing the drilling during the capping procedure, and this resulted in the accident. It'll take a while before we find out exactly what happened there.

[Benn]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Most damning--and just rumour at this point--is that they overruled the contract company doing the drilling during the capping procedure, and this resulted in the accident. It'll take a while before we find out exactly what happened there.

Rumour from the guy sitting in the room where it happened, until he's found to be lying, which who knows now with the whole media whore thing. In his defense he appeared on 60 minutes and said it and BP has not denied it.

[Zipperfish]

Proculation Proculation:

I've read a comment that said that perhaps BP is not using all the tools they have to shut down the well because they don't want to shut it down permanantly end then losing dozens of billions in that adventure. They are trying to 'save' the well to use it in the future.

What do you think ?

Makes no sense. They know where the oil field is, so it's just a matter of drilling another hole to it. They've already started drilling that with the two relief wells. Right now at 20,000 bbls a day and $80/bbl, they are losing $1.6M/day.

[Zipperfish]

Benn Benn:

Rumour from the guy sitting in the room where it happened, until he's found to be lying, which who knows now with the whole media whore thing. In his defense he appeared on 60 minutes and said it and BP has not denied it.

Thanks for that tidbit!

[Zipperfish]

Proculation Proculation:

We already know BP is at fault. They were supposed to drill a safety well, they did not. They were supposed to installed a more expensive valve, they didn't.

Yes, there need to be better regulations.

One would hope. Actually, I don't think there is much shortage of regulations in place. Problem is complacency and regulatory capture (where the regulator essentially becomes a pawn of the industry they are regulating). So there was lax enforcement, and these "categorical exclusions" were handed out like Halloween candy.

[ShepherdsDog]

Benn Benn:

Proculation Proculation:

Dragom Dragom:

At this awkward stage is it just time to drill the oil faster, depleting the pocket and limiting the Environmental harm?

I've read today that Obama sent some nuclear physicists.

Soviet Union used little nukes to shut down oil/gas wells that went berserk like that in the 60s-70s. They did it 5 times. It worked the 5 times.

If the Soviets could do it...

Hey ShepherdsDog already suggested that. White house must be following Canadaka.net

I saw it on Bloomberg, when they were interviewing Matthew Simmons.

[Thanos]

I think that "top kill" should instead mean that they take every BP executive above the rank of office manager and behead each and every one of the motherfuckers in a public square. And televise it, on every network and cable channel too. It would have been far better if BP had been a Japanese company. That way every single one of the assholes in charge would have been forced to commit ritual suicide by now. Which is about the only honorable apology left for any of the malicious cocksuckers who created this ridiculous situtaion in the first place. But they don't have honour. None of them ever did, or ever will. Call it a priviliege of the new ruling class of corporate plutocrats, in that these entirely evil fuckers get to walk between the raindrops while the rest of us, and the pitiful environment, get to bend over and grab our ankles on command like a bunch of cowardly Pavlovian dogs.

The nuclear option is intriguing. The way things go, keeping things like the Bikini Atoll atomic tests in mind, the ocean floor would probably recover faster from a small nuclear blast that permanently seals the well than it will if a 100000 barrels of sludge oil keeps flowing out every day for the rest of forever.

This is totally fucked. I can't figure out why every BP gas station and office in the United States hasn't been burnt to the ground by enraged citizens by now. Have Americans become so docile that this stuff doesn't even bother them anymore? Oh, I forgot. Jesus is coming soon and taking all us goody-goods back to Heaven with him, so it doesn't matter what we do to the planet before we leave (see Reagan Interior Secretary James Watt as an example of, yes, that this demented opinion actually exists). Insanity. Sheer insanity.