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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:39 pm
 


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Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link


How many other jobs offer benefits to people who work less than 34 hours?

34 hours is considered full time and you are entitled to benefits. I realize that WalMart uses this to schedule around the 34 hour stipulation, reducing benefits paid. But really, how much do people who work a completely unskilled job deserve? I thought that is what mimimum wage was? WalMart pays more than that.

Dude.. WalMart.. W A L M A R T! If I got my pick, that's the first chain I'd see in smoking rubble.


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They (Walmart) keep most of their employees under 34 hours a week. Did I mention anything about Wages? No. I dont support walmart due to the fact that they support countries with Human Rights Atrocities. I also make a conscious decision before buying anything, by seeing where it is made first. Im just not a Capitalist thats all.


I know that, and said as much in my post. This is not a strategy WalMart invented. It is done by employers all over.

Did I mention anything about Human Rights Atrocities? No. (See what I did there?)

I'm glad you are afforded the luxury to pay more for items based on personal values. It is certainly within your right to do so. However, most of the world is not afforded that same luxury.


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Dude.. WalMart.. W A L M A R T! If I got my pick, that's the first chain I'd see in smoking rubble.


And the millions of Walmart shoppers and employees wouldn't certainly thank you, I'm sure.


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neopundit neopundit:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link


How many other jobs offer benefits to people who work less than 34 hours?

34 hours is considered full time and you are entitled to benefits. I realize that WalMart uses this to schedule around the 34 hour stipulation, reducing benefits paid. But really, how much do people who work a completely unskilled job deserve? I thought that is what mimimum wage was? WalMart pays more than that.

Dude.. WalMart.. W A L M A R T! If I got my pick, that's the first chain I'd see in smoking rubble.


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neopundit neopundit:
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Dude.. WalMart.. W A L M A R T! If I got my pick, that's the first chain I'd see in smoking rubble.


And the millions of Walmart shoppers and employees wouldn't certainly thank you, I'm sure.

No, but the rest of America would.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:47 pm
 


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This is the true face of China, one they try to hide.


You are so right.

I will repost this in another thread as is to give you credit for the comment which is very a propos. Hope you don't mind.


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neopundit neopundit:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
They (Walmart) keep most of their employees under 34 hours a week. Did I mention anything about Wages? No. I dont support walmart due to the fact that they support countries with Human Rights Atrocities. I also make a conscious decision before buying anything, by seeing where it is made first. Im just not a Capitalist thats all.


I know that, and said as much in my post. This is not a strategy WalMart invented. It is done by employers all over.

Did I mention anything about Human Rights Atrocities? No. (See what I did there?)

I'm glad you are afforded the luxury to pay more for items based on personal values. It is certainly within your right to do so. However, most of the world is not afforded that same luxury.


Actually, i wouldnt consider myself being "afforded the luxury". I just budget accordingly to fit within my family income, which is just mine. It is quite easy to do, but it does mean that saving is the key and finding the best deal. They are out there, it just takes effort. Dont make assumptions so fast.

Oh btw, I didnt ask you about Human Right Atrocities. Did I post that as a question? No I dont think i did.


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Fine, Microsoft still is not the monopolistic monster that Wal Mart is.


According to the EU it is.

There are fundamental differences between Microsoft and WalMart. Microsoft had an element of luck involved, as they produced a product on the cusp of one of the biggest technological inventions in history. Yes, they had a lot of brains and foresight. But who knew how big computers and the internet would be? Since then, competitors are slowly gaining market share.

WalMart, on the other hand, took an age old industry (retail) and refined it. They cut costs, expanded and offered something people wanted - low prices.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:53 pm
 


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No, but the rest of America would.


If everyone hates Walmart, how is it so successful?


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OPP OPP:
neopundit neopundit:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link


How many other jobs offer benefits to people who work less than 34 hours?

34 hours is considered full time and you are entitled to benefits. I realize that WalMart uses this to schedule around the 34 hour stipulation, reducing benefits paid. But really, how much do people who work a completely unskilled job deserve? I thought that is what mimimum wage was? WalMart pays more than that.

Dude.. WalMart.. W A L M A R T! If I got my pick, that's the first chain I'd see in smoking rubble.


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neopundit neopundit:
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No, but the rest of America would.


If everyone hates Walmart, how is it so successful?

That's being a bit simplistic, wouldn't you say?
Their succes is a threat to small towns, small business and Uniones at large. I'd hate to see nothing but metropoles with slave labour.


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OPP OPP:
neopundit neopundit:
TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:
Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link


How many other jobs offer benefits to people who work less than 34 hours?

34 hours is considered full time and you are entitled to benefits. I realize that WalMart uses this to schedule around the 34 hour stipulation, reducing benefits paid. But really, how much do people who work a completely unskilled job deserve? I thought that is what mimimum wage was? WalMart pays more than that.

Dude.. WalMart.. W A L M A R T! If I got my pick, that's the first chain I'd see in smoking rubble.


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That's being a bit simplistic, wouldn't you say?
Their succes is a threat to small towns, small business and Uniones at large. I'd hate to see nothing but metropoles with slave labour.


No, I wouldn't say that. If WalMart fucked everyone, how would they become the biggest company the world has ever known? They aren't perfect, by any means, but they seem to be able to offer shit people want. Otherwise, why would people shop there?

How are they a threat to small towns and small businesses? If a competitor cannot offer the same prices as Walmart then they have to be able to offer something that consumers feel is worth the higher prices. If not, why do they deserve to make money simply by existing? If business was that easy I'd open a retail store.

And a threat to Unions? Why should anyone but a Union member care anything about Unions?Unions were useful 50 years ago, not today.

Slave labour? What are you smoking? People volunteer for these jobs! It's not like their aeronautical engineering firm went of of business when Walmart moved to town, forcing these highly skilled people to work for a pitance. Walmart creates jobs for unskilled people.

The sad thing is, the people you are trying to "protect" are those that need Walmart the most.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:38 pm
 


neopundit neopundit:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Fine, Microsoft still is not the monopolistic monster that Wal Mart is.


According to the EU it is.


And the EU can suck the pus out of my hemmorhoids. :evil:

neopundit neopundit:
There are fundamental differences between Microsoft and WalMart. Microsoft had an element of luck involved, as they produced a product on the cusp of one of the biggest technological inventions in history.


No, correction: Microsoft produced one of the biggest technological inventions in history.

neopundit neopundit:
Yes, they had a lot of brains and foresight. But who knew how big computers and the internet would be?


Exactly. Microsoft came into an infant market and made it a major market. They are reaping the rewards of their risks and investments.

neopundit neopundit:
Since then, competitors are slowly gaining market share.


In a market that Microsoft essentially created.

neopundit neopundit:
WalMart, on the other hand, took an age old industry (retail) and refined it. They cut costs, expanded and offered something people wanted - low prices.


Wal Mart used to be a responsible company run by Sam Walton and the firm was considered one of the best companies to work for in the USA. Then he died and his demon spawn turned the firm into a juggernaut that runs roughshod over small communities and that has been in repeated trouble for patent and copyright infringement. Wal Marts have sold Chinese made knock-offs of American made and patented products and Wal Mart is also the very largest firm to be busted for music piracy when several of its stores got caught selling Chinese made copies of copyrighted CDs.

I'm as conservative as the day is long, but Wal Mart is the one firm that makes me agree with a Communist like OPP that everything bad about capitalism is found in Wal Mart.

They are anti-competitive and have been busted for selling products below cost (an anti-competitive practice) in targeted communities in order to shut out their competition.

They have been busted for employing illegal aliens and for paying them less than the legal minimum wage.

They have been busted for working underage children past the hours allowed on their work permits and then for covering up those violations by not paying the children for their additional hours worked.

They have been busted for hundreds of thousands of incidents where workers have been forced to work unpaid overtime at threat of their jobs.

Sexual harrassment has been a favorite theme at Wal Mart and the women who dare to complain about it to management or to the proper authorities have been immediately fired even in states where such terminations are illegal.

They don't give a good goddam that their suppliers in China use child labor, prison labor, and outright slave labor. Despite reams of evidence being provided to them by activists, Wal Mart could care less about the people in China who are being oppresed so that drooling, fat, ignorant American troglodytes can buy cheap crap at a ridiculous markup.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:55 pm
 


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neopundit neopundit:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Fine, Microsoft still is not the monopolistic monster that Wal Mart is.


According to the EU it is.


And the EU can suck the pus out of my hemmorhoids. :evil:


Mine too.

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No, correction: Microsoft produced one of the biggest technological inventions in history.


The...GUI Operating System? I was referring to the PC and later the Internet.

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Exactly. Microsoft came into an infant market and made it a major market. They are reaping the rewards of their risks and investments.

In a market that Microsoft essentially created.


Which is exactly my point. Microsoft was essentially endowed with a monopoly with its product. Walmart built a "monopoly" in a very competitive industry. Something is to be said about that.

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Wal Mart used to be a responsible company run by Sam Walton and the firm was considered one of the best companies to work for in the USA. Then he died and his demon spawn turned the firm into a juggernaut that runs roughshod over small communities and that has been in repeated trouble for patent and copyright infringement. Wal Marts have sold Chinese made knock-offs of American made and patented products and Wal Mart is also the very largest firm to be busted for music piracy when several of its stores got caught selling Chinese made copies of copyrighted CDs.


Hey, I said they weren't perfect. They also aren't the only company to do such things. They're a big target, because they're the BIGGEST.

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They are anti-competitive and have been busted for selling products below cost (an anti-competitive practice) in targeted communities in order to shut out their competition.


How is that anti-competitive? The consumer gains.

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They have been busted for employing illegal aliens and for paying them less than the legal minimum wage.


Again, something I don't condone (in fact, I hate). But they aren't alone in this.

I cut the stuff below that, because I'm not going to say it isn't true. I guess those are the consquences of being unbelievably huge. And regardless what you or I or OPP thinks, there are many people that are, on some level, appreciative of Walmart.


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