[Zipperfish]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Like i said , Liberals no priciples and no courage

But we got all the best-looking girls and have way better parties.

[DerbyX]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Like i said , Liberals no priciples and no courage

But we got all the best-looking girls and have way better parties.

And cookies. Lots of cookies.

[HyperionTheEvil]

$1:

The Liberals need time to rebuild so why chance letting the CPC trick Canadians into giving them a majority

This says it all and all the posturing that Dion is doing is simply smoke to cover the fact that the Liberal Party isnt fit to govern. The ploy of fear mongering is getting older and older.

This isnt about policy, this isnt about priciples, this about liberals flopping all over the place. Compromising themselves everyday by agreeing with the government with what the Conservatives are doing, while trying to convice Canadians that they are the best party to govern Canada?

Why wouldnt they say out loud that they believe Conservatives are 'tricking' Canadians. And vote out a government whom the feel is duplicitous? Instead they're propping up the conservatives? Derby its almost fun to watch you try to excuse, parse and explain away how Dion and the Liberals are helping Canadians by him and the Liberals allowing (in your words) the Conservatives to go on tricking those very same Canadians.

If that isn't a circular argument i dont know what is.

Conservatives bad, but not so bad that we need to defeat them. And since were not ready to govern Canada (if we ever were) We will allow the conservatives to go on being bad for the sake that by supporting the conservatives in the bad job they're doing we hope some day to do a better job?


I say again Liberals have no priciples, no courage and no convictions

[DerbyX]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

$1:

The Liberals need time to rebuild so why chance letting the CPC trick Canadians into giving them a majority

This says it all and all the posturing that Dion is doing is simply smoke to cover the fact that the Liberal Party isnt fit to govern. The ploy of fear mongering is getting older and older.

This isnt about policy, this isnt about priciples, this about liberals flopping all over the place. Compromising themselves everyday by agreeing with the government with what the Conservatives are doing, while trying to convice Canadians that they are the best party to govern Canada?

Why wouldnt they say out loud that they believe Conservatives are 'tricking' Canadians. And vote out a government whom the feel is duplicitous? Instead they're propping up the conservatives? Derby its almost fun to watch you try to excuse, parse and explain away how Dion and the Liberals are helping Canadians by him and the Liberals allowing (in your words) the Conservatives to go on tricking those very same Canadians.

If that isn't a circular argument i dont know what is.

Conservatives bad, but not so bad that we need to defeat them. And since were not ready to govern Canada (if we ever were) We will allow the conservatives to go on being bad for the sake that by supporting the conservatives in the bad job they're doing we hope some day to do a better job?


I say again Liberals have no priciples, no courage and no convictions

The same BS you post all the time.

Meaningless rhetoric.

You won't bother answering anything but just keep demanding your own answers.

You are done.

On yer bike.

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

$1:

The Liberals need time to rebuild so why chance letting the CPC trick Canadians into giving them a majority

This says it all and all the posturing that Dion is doing is simply smoke to cover the fact that the Liberal Party isnt fit to govern. The ploy of fear mongering is getting older and older.

This isnt about policy, this isnt about priciples, this about liberals flopping all over the place. Compromising themselves everyday by agreeing with the government with what the Conservatives are doing, while trying to convice Canadians that they are the best party to govern Canada?

Why wouldnt they say out loud that they believe Conservatives are 'tricking' Canadians. And vote out a government whom the feel is duplicitous? Instead they're propping up the conservatives? Derby its almost fun to watch you try to excuse, parse and explain away how Dion and the Liberals are helping Canadians by him and the Liberals allowing (in your words) the Conservatives to go on tricking those very same Canadians.

If that isn't a circular argument i dont know what is.

Conservatives bad, but not so bad that we need to defeat them. And since were not ready to govern Canada (if we ever were) We will allow the conservatives to go on being bad for the sake that by supporting the conservatives in the bad job they're doing we hope some day to do a better job?


I say again Liberals have no priciples, no courage and no convictions

The same BS you post all the time.

Meaningless rhetoric.

You won't bother answering anything but just keep demanding your own answers.

You are done.

On yer bike.

It's not rhetoric, it’s a question. The question is that if Liberals are so convinced that the Conservatives are doing such a bad Job and everytime you post an evasion you underline the fact that although you and other Liberals can complain you can't point out where the Liberals are better. For the simple fact is that the Liberal Party is supporting the Conservatives by not having a non-confidence vote


The NDP are a bunch of idiots but at least they can vote up or down on legislation before them. The Liberals continue to let themselves be walked all over in the hope that Canadians will trust them someday with doing a better job?

I can see that you galled by the fact that your favorite party has given up standing up for what they believe. I can see why you would want to not answer the open question of if the Conservatives are so bad why they Liberals continue to let them stay in power? I can see why you might want people to think that the politics of hate that the liberal party is so well known for in trying to convince Canadians that the conservatives are 'tricking' them (your words)

But for the sake of Hypothesis, lets say that this was the case.

Then why does Dion and the Liberal Party continue to allow the conservatives to govern. They don’t have too, anytime the Liberals could defeat the government and stand for election on the Liberal Party agenda (whatever it is this week) and let democracy work. In fact its fair to say the Liberal Party is the very anti-thesis of democratic government by essentially not working as an opposition party in the clash of ideas but hedging their bets with their convictions and principles and duties to Canadians by doing nothing



And again you give no answer Derby. You're about the most die hard liberal party supporter here and the best answer you can give why the Liberals refuse to act is that they're worried about the conservatives 'tricking' Canadians and yet let them go on tricking them

Where are your convictions Derby, Where are the Liberals convictions. Where is the courage to stand up and vote what Liberals say they stand for. by the virtue of the Liberals doing nothing its a fair conclusion they stand for nothing as well

[DerbyX]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

$1:

The Liberals need time to rebuild so why chance letting the CPC trick Canadians into giving them a majority

This says it all and all the posturing that Dion is doing is simply smoke to cover the fact that the Liberal Party isnt fit to govern. The ploy of fear mongering is getting older and older.

This isnt about policy, this isnt about priciples, this about liberals flopping all over the place. Compromising themselves everyday by agreeing with the government with what the Conservatives are doing, while trying to convice Canadians that they are the best party to govern Canada?

Why wouldnt they say out loud that they believe Conservatives are 'tricking' Canadians. And vote out a government whom the feel is duplicitous? Instead they're propping up the conservatives? Derby its almost fun to watch you try to excuse, parse and explain away how Dion and the Liberals are helping Canadians by him and the Liberals allowing (in your words) the Conservatives to go on tricking those very same Canadians.

If that isn't a circular argument i dont know what is.

Conservatives bad, but not so bad that we need to defeat them. And since were not ready to govern Canada (if we ever were) We will allow the conservatives to go on being bad for the sake that by supporting the conservatives in the bad job they're doing we hope some day to do a better job?


I say again Liberals have no priciples, no courage and no convictions

The same BS you post all the time.

Meaningless rhetoric.

You won't bother answering anything but just keep demanding your own answers.

You are done.

On yer bike.

It's not rhetoric, it’s a question. The question is that if Liberals are so convinced that the Conservatives are doing such a bad Job and everytime you post an evasion you underline the fact that although you and other Liberals can complain you can't point out where the Liberals are better. For the simple fact is that the Liberal Party is supporting the Conservatives by not having a non-confidence vote


The NDP are a bunch of idiots but at least they can vote up or down on legislation before them. The Liberals continue to let themselves be walked all over in the hope that Canadians will trust them someday with doing a better job?

I can see that you galled by the fact that your favorite party has given up standing up for what they believe. I can see why you would want to not answer the open question of if the Conservatives are so bad why they Liberals continue to let them stay in power? I can see why you might want people to think that the politics of hate that the liberal party is so well known for in trying to convince Canadians that the conservatives are 'tricking' them (your words)

But for the sake of Hypothesis, lets say that this was the case.

Then why does Dion and the Liberal Party continue to allow the conservatives to govern. They don’t have too, anytime the Liberals could defeat the government and stand for election on the Liberal Party agenda (whatever it is this week) and let democracy work. In fact its fair to say the Liberal Party is the very anti-thesis of democratic government by essentially not working as an opposition party in the clash of ideas but hedging their bets with their convictions and principles and duties to Canadians by doing nothing



And again you give no answer Derby. You're about the most die hard liberal party supporter here and the best answer you can give why the Liberals refuse to act is that they're worried about the conservatives 'tricking' Canadians and yet let them go on tricking them

Where are your convictions Derby, Where are the Liberals convictions. Where is the courage to stand up and vote what Liberals say they stand for. by the virtue of the Liberals doing nothing its a fair conclusion they stand for nothing as well

Yawn. You dodged everything I asked so until you start answering ....

On yer bike.

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

$1:

The Liberals need time to rebuild so why chance letting the CPC trick Canadians into giving them a majority

This says it all and all the posturing that Dion is doing is simply smoke to cover the fact that the Liberal Party isnt fit to govern. The ploy of fear mongering is getting older and older.

This isnt about policy, this isnt about priciples, this about liberals flopping all over the place. Compromising themselves everyday by agreeing with the government with what the Conservatives are doing, while trying to convice Canadians that they are the best party to govern Canada?

Why wouldnt they say out loud that they believe Conservatives are 'tricking' Canadians. And vote out a government whom the feel is duplicitous? Instead they're propping up the conservatives? Derby its almost fun to watch you try to excuse, parse and explain away how Dion and the Liberals are helping Canadians by him and the Liberals allowing (in your words) the Conservatives to go on tricking those very same Canadians.

If that isn't a circular argument i dont know what is.

Conservatives bad, but not so bad that we need to defeat them. And since were not ready to govern Canada (if we ever were) We will allow the conservatives to go on being bad for the sake that by supporting the conservatives in the bad job they're doing we hope some day to do a better job?


I say again Liberals have no priciples, no courage and no convictions

The same BS you post all the time.

Meaningless rhetoric.

You won't bother answering anything but just keep demanding your own answers.

You are done.

On yer bike.

It's not rhetoric, it’s a question. The question is that if Liberals are so convinced that the Conservatives are doing such a bad Job and everytime you post an evasion you underline the fact that although you and other Liberals can complain you can't point out where the Liberals are better. For the simple fact is that the Liberal Party is supporting the Conservatives by not having a non-confidence vote


The NDP are a bunch of idiots but at least they can vote up or down on legislation before them. The Liberals continue to let themselves be walked all over in the hope that Canadians will trust them someday with doing a better job?

I can see that you galled by the fact that your favorite party has given up standing up for what they believe. I can see why you would want to not answer the open question of if the Conservatives are so bad why they Liberals continue to let them stay in power? I can see why you might want people to think that the politics of hate that the liberal party is so well known for in trying to convince Canadians that the conservatives are 'tricking' them (your words)

But for the sake of Hypothesis, lets say that this was the case.

Then why does Dion and the Liberal Party continue to allow the conservatives to govern. They don’t have too, anytime the Liberals could defeat the government and stand for election on the Liberal Party agenda (whatever it is this week) and let democracy work. In fact its fair to say the Liberal Party is the very anti-thesis of democratic government by essentially not working as an opposition party in the clash of ideas but hedging their bets with their convictions and principles and duties to Canadians by doing nothing



And again you give no answer Derby. You're about the most die hard liberal party supporter here and the best answer you can give why the Liberals refuse to act is that they're worried about the conservatives 'tricking' Canadians and yet let them go on tricking them

Where are your convictions Derby, Where are the Liberals convictions. Where is the courage to stand up and vote what Liberals say they stand for. by the virtue of the Liberals doing nothing its a fair conclusion they stand for nothing as well

Yawn. You dodged everything I asked so until you start answering ....

On yer bike.

This about Liberals actually standing up for what they believe in, And i must say you share thier behaviour of 'duck and cover'. When someone simply says that the Liberal should defeat the government if they honestly believe that the goverment is doing a bad job. You retreat fast

Instead Liberals are content to complain about how bad things are and yet do nothing about it. Wheres the outrage you usually have Derby. Ive seen you light into conservatives on this board for a number of reasons and yet here I am, a person who doesnt even have the usual party Tag on thier profile asking you, what and where and when the Liberals will stand , vote in the Commons and be counted.

And yet every time i ask this vital question you come back with

'on yer bike'

Where is your personal courage Derby?

Where are your personal convictions in the Liberal Platform?

Where are your principles in what your willing to let your party do or not do uder the guise of helping Canadians by letting the Conservatives supposedly harm them?

Im not the only one asking this, there are so many editorial and comments in the newpapers these days openly questioning what Liberals stand for that its not something that can be avoided for to much longer.The liberals supported the throne speech and everything that followed, they moaned about it but they werent willing to say how they are different in thier beliefs and stand up and vote for those same beliefs

It seems more more everyday that Liberals have nothing which makes them fit to govern the country

[DerbyX]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

This about Liberals actually standing up for what they believe in, And i must say you share thier behaviour of 'duck and cover'. When someone simply says that the Liberal should defeat the government if they honestly believe that the goverment is doing a bad job. You retreat fast

Instead Liberals are content to complain about how bad things are and yet do nothing about it. Wheres the outrage you usually have Derby. Ive seen you light into conservatives on this board for a number of reasons and yet here I am, a person who doesnt even have the usual party Tag on thier profile asking you, what and where and when the Liberals will stand , vote in the Commons and be counted.

And yet every time i ask this vital question you come back with

'on yer bike'

Where is your personal courage Derby?

Where are your personal convictions in the Liberal Platform?

Where are your principles in what your willing to let your party do or not do uder the guise of helping Canadians by letting the Conservatives supposedly harm them?

Im not the only one asking this, there are so many editorial and comments in the newpapers these days openly questioning what Liberals stand for that its not something that can be avoided for to much longer.The liberals supported the throne speech and everything that followed, they moaned about it but they werent willing to say how they are different in thier beliefs and stand up and vote for those same beliefs

It seems more more everyday that Liberals have nothing which makes them fit to govern the country

You are answering nothing.

I'm tired of your tired old bullshit. You cried about the Liberals taxing Canadians to death and that was utter lies.

You cried about a whole shitload of partisan BS ignoring all the things I did post about showing exactly what principles you stand for and being a deceitful partisan hack pretty much sums it up.

You ignored my questions so I am ignoring yours.

N'uff said.

On yer bike.

Regardless of what you post I will not bother wasting anymore time on you here.

[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

This about Liberals actually standing up for what they believe in, And i must say you share thier behaviour of 'duck and cover'. When someone simply says that the Liberal should defeat the government if they honestly believe that the goverment is doing a bad job. You retreat fast

Instead Liberals are content to complain about how bad things are and yet do nothing about it. Wheres the outrage you usually have Derby. Ive seen you light into conservatives on this board for a number of reasons and yet here I am, a person who doesnt even have the usual party Tag on thier profile asking you, what and where and when the Liberals will stand , vote in the Commons and be counted.

And yet every time i ask this vital question you come back with

'on yer bike'

Where is your personal courage Derby?

Where are your personal convictions in the Liberal Platform?

Where are your principles in what your willing to let your party do or not do uder the guise of helping Canadians by letting the Conservatives supposedly harm them?

Im not the only one asking this, there are so many editorial and comments in the newpapers these days openly questioning what Liberals stand for that its not something that can be avoided for to much longer.The liberals supported the throne speech and everything that followed, they moaned about it but they werent willing to say how they are different in thier beliefs and stand up and vote for those same beliefs

It seems more more everyday that Liberals have nothing which makes them fit to govern the country

You are answering nothing.

I'm tired of your tired old bullshit. You cried about the Liberals taxing Canadians to death and that was utter lies.

You cried about a whole shitload of partisan BS ignoring all the things I did post about showing exactly what principles you stand for and being a deceitful partisan hack pretty much sums it up.

You ignored my questions so I am ignoring yours.

N'uff said.

On yer bike.

Regardless of what you post I will not bother wasting anymore time on you here.

I didnt ignore it i answered it, but it seems that you won;t answer mine.

Which is just fine, because everytime you refuse to answer to where your actual priciples are , while claiming to know my own. You just highlight the point that Liberals can dish out the question but can hack gicing answers. Or to actually voting thier conscience

You openly say you are ignoring my question, if that isnt a out and out cop out on your usual method of blasting anyone that may disagree with you in your sights then i should think this is not only a major acceptance of defeat on you and your party. A rvelation on the Liberal Party mindset that upon difficult question that answer is to hide as much as possible - but still complain that something the conservatives is bad, but dont actually do anything about it.


I can almost feel the anger you have Derby. Ive seen some Liberals here (even the ones with the little "liberal" tags in thier profiles ) openly say the Dion is a poor leader and Harper is better than they thought. And yet you are here ignoring the question of how you claim Liberals are better when they refuse to act.?Its a very simple question.Where is the Liberal Party? Have they simply retreated, have they disntergrated,do they need another leadership convention? Where has thier backbone gone?

Ignore it as you might but you''re not the only person who reads this , and others will see that you are acting as the Liberal Party does by opting out of the chance to forward your ideas. Its a surrender on your part really, the inability or the unwillingess to state why the Liberals are better and then stand for that idea.


But keep on doing it, i encourage you to keep on doing it. Every week that goes by , Every piece of Conservative legislation that passes while the Liberals continue to abstain from democracy. Makes the Conservatives look better an better.


Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

[hwacker]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

Just these days ?



everyday, it must suck.

[Zipperfish]

hwacker hwacker:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

Just these days ?



everyday, it must suck.

meh, it's not bad. We got the parties. The girls. The cookies. Plus we don't have to walk around all day wiht a huge pole stuck up our ass. So there's that.

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

hwacker hwacker:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

Just these days ?



everyday, it must suck.

meh, it's not bad. We got the parties. The girls. The cookies. Plus we don't have to walk around all day wiht a huge pole stuck up our ass. So there's that.

Oh yea, great hot left wing chicks who hate the military, law and order and promote every culture except Canada's.
They sound dreamy.

I have a vision of a lefty fat chick with a bad attitude.

[ryan29]

hwacker hwacker:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

Just these days ?



everyday, it must suck.

with dion as leader these must be some tough days to be a liberal

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

hwacker hwacker:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

Just these days ?



everyday, it must suck.

meh, it's not bad. We got the parties. The girls. The cookies. Plus we don't have to walk around all day wiht a huge pole stuck up our ass. So there's that.

Oh yea, great hot left wing chicks who hate the military, law and order and promote every culture except Canada's.
They sound dreamy.

I have a vision of a lefty fat chick with a bad attitude.

Don't fret, you've got Ann Coulter.

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

hwacker hwacker:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

Must suck to be a die hard Liberal these days

Just these days ?



everyday, it must suck.

meh, it's not bad. We got the parties. The girls. The cookies. Plus we don't have to walk around all day wiht a huge pole stuck up our ass. So there's that.

Oh yea, great hot left wing chicks who hate the military, law and order and promote every culture except Canada's.
They sound dreamy.

I have a vision of a lefty fat chick with a bad attitude.

Don't fret, you've got Ann Coulter.

I didn't know she was a Canadian in the Conservative Party of Canada?

Loser lefties trying to align loony right wing yanks to the CPC.

Pathetic.

What about that well known Liberal Stalin? Or maybe Che? Jimmy Carter was a Lib mp was he not?
Or even Dan Rather, a good lefty with an excellent record on truthful reporting. Must be a Liberal CBC guy.....