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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:17 pm
 


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But a question. Why does the worst hazing abuse always seem to take place in institutions of learning?


Yup. It's true. And it seems the bullies and jocks always get a pass to terrorize other students.


I was a jock and let me tell you if I'd been a bully my parents would have slapped me so hard I'd still be walking backwards.

I don't know how it worked where you were from but in the extremely small city I grew up in we really didn't have that problem because everybody knew everybody else and if one of the kids got out of line or did something wrong the parents knew about it before the kid got home.

So, for us bullying wasn't a major issue in high school because bullies were dealt with by the parents and the other kids. As a matter of fact the kids I played ball and hockey with to my knowledge never bullied anyone and I even saw them go out of their way to make sure nobody bullied the other kids in school. Although, thinking back we never had initiation rituals or hazings for team members so that likely made a difference.


I can't help but think that in the decades following my what was apparently innocent youth that people have become pure evil assholes who think nothing of hurting other people because it provides them with entertainment. So, by acting like an asshole these special people have turned what should have been effective team building exercises into terrifying and life altering experiences that nobody should have to live through which is disgusting.


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But a question. Why does the worst hazing abuse always seem to take place in institutions of learning?


Yup. It's true. And it seems the bullies and jocks always get a pass to terrorize other students.


I was a jock and let me tell you if I'd been a bully my parents would have slapped me so hard I'd still be walking backwards.

I don't know how it worked where you were from but in the extremely small city I grew up in we really didn't have that problem because everybody knew everybody else and if one of the kids got out of line or did something wrong the parents knew about it before the kid got home.

So, for us bullying wasn't a major issue in high school because bullies were dealt with by the parents and the other kids. As a matter of fact the kids I played ball and hockey with to my knowledge never bullied anyone and I even saw them go out of their way to make sure nobody bullied the other kids in school. Although, thinking back we never had initiation rituals or hazings for team members so that likely made a difference.


I can't help but think that in the decades following my what was apparently innocent youth that people have become pure evil assholes who think nothing of hurting other people because it provides them with entertainment. So, by acting like an asshole these special people have turned what should have been effective team building exercises into terrifying and life altering experiences that nobody should have to live through which is disgusting.


Unless I've got it all wrong, you grew up in an atmosphere that worked on responsibility. The boys of this school appear to have grown up in an atmosphere of privilege. That really screws up kids. I spoke to my wife years ago about winning the lotto. She asked me what that would do for us. My response was "it would ruin our kids lives." They would have sat down and said: 'when do we get ours.'


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:28 pm
 


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Unless I've got it all wrong, you grew up in an atmosphere that worked on responsibility. The boys of this school appear to have grown up in an atmosphere of privilege.


At my school the problem was the kids who enjoyed the privilege of being popular.

The faculty and administration could always be counted on to give them a pass especially when the popular kids tortured a weird, different, or gay kid.

It was socially acceptable to punish the oddballs for being odd.

The justice in life for me was going to reunions over the years and seeing The God Squad having to deal with the unpleasant realities that 1) the best four years of their lives were behind them and 2) no one in the real world gives a fuck how popular you were or were not in high school.

At my 35th reunion last year I had the unsettling experience of being ranked as one of the more successful of our classmates, right behind our very own dotcom billionaire.

The popular kids have failed marriages, some run-ins with the law, failed businesses, and etc.

In this respect I suppose it was a blessing that high school was a shit experience for me because every year since then has been better than the year before.

I've spent thirty six years looking forward to the best years of my life while The God Squad is stuck looking back to their glory days to make themselves feel like they matter.

And what I wrote before this is about what I tell every bullied kid I ever meet.

The best years are ahead of you. :wink:


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The worst kid in my neighbourhood was also one of the best hockey players in the district which explained fully why he got away with everything. That team he was on was nothing but a bunch of thugs too, most of them miserable and vicious cretins to the core, all strutting around wearing those goddamn team jackets like a fucking street gang. None of them ever picked a fight either with anyone who could fight back at the same skill level they had, or were better than them. Hence them just terrorizing the smaller and weaker kids who had no chance at all against them.

Hence my lifelong avoidance and hatred of the sportos. It was an eye-opener that's stayed with me for over forty years. It was where I formed my belief that evil always wins and always will. Judging by the way this world is operating at any given time I haven't been proven wrong either.


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fifeboy fifeboy:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
I was a jock and let me tell you if I'd been a bully my parents would have slapped me so hard I'd still be walking backwards.

I don't know how it worked where you were from but in the extremely small city I grew up in we really didn't have that problem because everybody knew everybody else and if one of the kids got out of line or did something wrong the parents knew about it before the kid got home.

So, for us bullying wasn't a major issue in high school because bullies were dealt with by the parents and the other kids. As a matter of fact the kids I played ball and hockey with to my knowledge never bullied anyone and I even saw them go out of their way to make sure nobody bullied the other kids in school. Although, thinking back we never had initiation rituals or hazings for team members so that likely made a difference.


I can't help but think that in the decades following my what was apparently innocent youth that people have become pure evil assholes who think nothing of hurting other people because it provides them with entertainment. So, by acting like an asshole these special people have turned what should have been effective team building exercises into terrifying and life altering experiences that nobody should have to live through which is disgusting.


Unless I've got it all wrong, you grew up in an atmosphere that worked on responsibility. The boys of this school appear to have grown up in an atmosphere of privilege. That really screws up kids. I spoke to my wife years ago about winning the lotto. She asked me what that would do for us. My response was "it would ruin our kids lives." They would have sat down and said: 'when do we get ours.'


Exactly.

Our parents made us responsible for our actions and we knew exactly what our boundaries were and yes we pushed them but I honestly can't remember an instance where we hurt other people for sport because the consequences would have been catastrophic.


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The worst kid in my neighbourhood was also one of the best hockey players in the district which explained fully why he got away with everything. That team he was on was nothing but a bunch of thugs too, most of them miserable and vicious cretins to the core, all strutting around wearing those goddamn team jackets like a fucking street gang. None of them ever picked a fight either with anyone who could fight back at the same skill level they had, or were better than them. Hence them just terrorizing the smaller and weaker kids who had no chance at all against them.

Hence my lifelong avoidance and hatred of the sportos. It was an eye-opener that's stayed with me for over forty years. It was where I formed my belief that evil always wins and always will. Judging by the way this world is operating at any given time I haven't been proven wrong either.


Sometimes evil men get their brains blown right the fuck out of their heads.

In the right light it can be kind of pretty.

Thought I'd share that. :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:51 pm
 


Happens to too few of them. Most of them end up triumphant throughout their entire lives. Raising your kids to be decent, honourable, fair, and kind just sets them up for a life of unending losses. Raising them the opposite way ensures their success and their dominance.

Welcome to the human race. Nothing ever changes. Glad every day I never had kids. Couldn't stand to see them end up as just more meat for the grinder. :|


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:33 pm
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Exactly.

Our parents made us responsible for our actions and we knew exactly what our boundaries were and yes we pushed them but I honestly can't remember an instance where we hurt other people for sport because the consequences would have been catastrophic.

Well said. When you did something right you were congratulated for it, and if you did something wrong... well, my parents had evolved past the trip to the woodshed, but you knew things would be a bit tough.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:03 am
 


fifeboy fifeboy:
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Exactly.

Our parents made us responsible for our actions and we knew exactly what our boundaries were and yes we pushed them but I honestly can't remember an instance where we hurt other people for sport because the consequences would have been catastrophic.

Well said. When you did something right you were congratulated for it, and if you did something wrong... well, my parents had evolved past the trip to the woodshed, but you knew things would be a bit tough.


I went to the same sorts of schools, in a small town where everyone knew everyone. But that town has changed into a small city. Recently found out (and posted here) that my old high school has it's own 'fight club'. :(


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:08 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
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The worst kid in my neighbourhood was also one of the best hockey players in the district which explained fully why he got away with everything. That team he was on was nothing but a bunch of thugs too, most of them miserable and vicious cretins to the core, all strutting around wearing those goddamn team jackets like a fucking street gang. None of them ever picked a fight either with anyone who could fight back at the same skill level they had, or were better than them. Hence them just terrorizing the smaller and weaker kids who had no chance at all against them.

Hence my lifelong avoidance and hatred of the sportos. It was an eye-opener that's stayed with me for over forty years. It was where I formed my belief that evil always wins and always will. Judging by the way this world is operating at any given time I haven't been proven wrong either.


Sometimes evil men get their brains blown right the fuck out of their heads.

In the right light it can be kind of pretty.

Thought I'd share that. :wink:

I'd see that and suddenly I'd want Cream Soda.


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