Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Women are forced to cover themselves in t5he West as well. They must wear burqas for their breasts.
Free the beasts.
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Right?
You are a cool guy along with
Freakinoldguy 
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Fighter Fighter:
If Muslim women are satisfied by law in Iran and KSA....then who are we to judge whether they are oppressed or not? I don't see women coming out or protesting against these laws in KSA and Iran.
And now you do.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/ ... 16823.html$1:
Iran arrests 29 women for not wearing hijab in protests
Women removed their headscarves in public in protest of Iran's compulsory law.
Iran has cracked down on women violating its compulsory headscarf decree, arresting at least 29 individuals, according to Iranian media, and drawing criticism from activists and rights groups.
Tasnim news agency reported on Friday that 29 women had been arrested, and quoted Tehran police as saying that the detainees were arrested for "disturbing public security".
It was unclear where else arrests had been made, as protests have spread from the capital to other areas, including the ancient cities of Esfahan and Shiraz.
Over the years, hundreds of thousands of Iranian women have protested against the law.
In recent weeks, following a new wave of protests in the country, women renewed their opposition to the law, taking off their hijabs in public and waving them on wooden sticks like flags.
Holly Dagres, an Iranian-American analyst, said Iranian authorities are "very much aware" that more than half of the population is against wearing the hijab.
"It's evident by the fact that the morality police are on constant patrol of the streets of major cities like Tehran," Dagres told Al Jazeera.
"Authorities know that if they don't crack down, Iranian women will continue to test the boundaries of what they can and cannot wear."
Dagres said that more arrests were likely to spur solidarity with the campaign.
So you should target Iran rather than painting all Muslim community/women with same brush.
Even these protests by Iranian women can't be assumed to be representative of all Iranian women....Few protested, thousands support it but still doesn't mean that every Iranian woman supports them, thinks like them or feel oppressed by having headscarf.
Iranian women are religious as well and they wear scarf out of their own will.
It's personal thing/choice and others, whether a government or some outsiders should not interfere, misrepresent it for sake of own politics.
If women doesn't want to wear headscarf, fine.
If she wants to, then again fine....
I and other Pakistanis have no problem with both cases.
CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
Fighter Fighter:
Pakistanis in just 70 years since their freedom elected a woman prime minister, not once but twice.
Until your tolerant society blew her head off.
So, you're saying that Pakistanis, as a society, didn't liked her and decided to kill her
If that's the case, then why Pakistanis elected her in first place not once but twice times...You're basically saying that Pakistanis elected her and then suddenly got pissed off and decided to get rid of her? That's not how we work here.
She was
not murdered because she was
women....That was not the motive of her assassination at all.
Even If I go by your logic , I can say the same that Intolerant American society and Taliban both share same customs and values...Both love to murder innocent kids in school.
A Pakistani exchange student, Sabika Shiekh, was killed in recent US school shooting...So, should I blame all Americans for that?
A lot of female politicians, just like men politicians, have been murdered/assassinated...Don't know how you're claiming to hold all society responsible for that and terming them intolerant or what not.
http://www.ibtimes.com/13-famous-murdered-women-you-may-or-may-not-have-heard-936610 CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
Fighter Fighter:
Sikh Punjabi family for you...Interestingly, No one will shout against the turban of Sikhs....Oh look, how oppressed Sikh men are...Always have to wear turban...Poor men...
Several years back, I had a frequent customer at my workplace at the time who was a Sikh. He didn't wear the turban at all, so I asked him one day why he didn't. He explained to me that the turban is only meant to be worn during a religious ceremony, or praying, or on holy days in their calendar. He also explained to me that it was not mandatory to wear outside of all that, and how he was actually ashamed of most of his people, because they were keeping it on 24/7 and using it to have laws changed in their favour, and walking with their noses high in the air, so to speak.
I was really floored by this, because A) I didn't know much about Sikhs or the turban, and B) he was a little upset at the fact that his own life was being made miserable in Canada not because of Canadians or our laws, but because his own people were making a ruckus about everything Sikh, including the turban and kirpan. He even mentioned that the kirpan is important to a Sikh entering manhood, and is largely ceremonial, and doesn't need to be carried day-to-day.
I respect that man to this day for explaining that stuff, and for carrying himself the way he was. Probably the only Sikh I have dealt with that didn't have some kind of complex/agenda/etc.
-J.
What you told me, this, was also unknown to me...
Hmm...I thought it was mandatory to have turban all the time since I haven't seen any Sikh without turban...What about if there is a possibility that the Sikh guy you met is just an outlier or may be don't know much about Sikhism....What if there are some sects within Sikhism? who differ from each other?
Most of the Sikhs adore their turbans...I think it is the matter of their pride...
Sikhs in armies.....
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