[bootlegga]

BRAH BRAH:

The Left's last Hail Mary failed, it's over.

I wouldn't say that - their Hail Mary is the mid-term election. If they get control of the House or Senate, then all bets are off.

[Thanos]

Goodbye republic, hello again to something similar to the rule of the early Caesars.

[N_Fiddledog]

bootlegga bootlegga:

BRAH BRAH:

The Left's last Hail Mary failed, it's over.

I wouldn't say that - their Hail Mary is the mid-term election. If they get control of the House or Senate, then all bets are off.

Possibly but how would that work anyway?

The polls are saying the possibility is Democrats take the House but lose the Senate.

So let's say Nancy and the Dems try to impeach Trump or Kavanaugh from the House. They'd still have to get their bill through the Senate, wouldn't they? So they could cause some chaos in the process but not affect actual change, right? Isn't that the way it work? Or is the impeachment process different than simply passing a bill through?

[raydan]

If Trump declares himself "supreme leader" for life, I wonder what that well trained militia (that is, Republicans with guns) will do. Chances are, since it's their guy, they'll sit back and do nothing.

[N_Fiddledog]

Back to reality though...

There's another interesting thing about the polls and how the Kavanaugh hearings may have affected them.

The Dems still appear to have the House locked up in a simple Rep or Dem vote from the polls but there's a suggestion things may be changing as far as voter enthusiasm goes or who will actually vote. Particularly where women are concerned.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/65401587 ... =hootsuite

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa ... n-n2525442

[Freakinoldguy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

BRAH BRAH:

The Left's last Hail Mary failed, it's over.

I wouldn't say that - their Hail Mary is the mid-term election. If they get control of the House or Senate, then all bets are off.

Of course all bets would be off because they are now. After watching the lengths people like Dianne Feinstein and Maxime Waters are willing go to, to destroy their opponents it's going to devolve into all out war especially since the gloves have been removed with the Kavanaugh appointment and the Republicans now have carte blanche to retaliate in kind.

As for Trump becoming a lame duck President if the Democrats take the Senate and House, there are still ways for him to implement the policies he wants and I'm sure given his love of the opposition that he'll do something even more prolific than these two Democrat gentlemen.

$1:

Lame duck presidents may get creative with their power during their last year in office. Activity may increase: The Carter administration issued 24,000 pages of new regulations on its way out; Clinton left 26,000 pages. By doing so, a president buries his successor in a mountain of paperwork, effectively "extending his influence beyond the limit of his term" [source: Boston University].

Of course this statement still applies:

$1:

Every president wants to end his presidency on a high note; not all do. Some are more "lame" than others. But as Democrat senator Patrick Leahy put it in 2007, "No president is ever a lame duck. He's still president" [source: National Journal].

https://people.howstuffworks.com/lame-d ... ident2.htm


So will the atmosphere in Washington change? I doubt it. Like it or not it's a new Civil war without the bullets. And now the American People are going to have to decide whether they want lunatic A or lunatic B because these two parties will do everything they can to destroy each other. Unfortunately when your neighbours are fighting non stop, while entertaining it tends to take your mind off your own problems like the idiot you happen to be living with.

[N_Fiddledog]

There is a point to be made here though:

BRAH BRAH:

The Left's last Hail Mary failed, it's over.

Democrats, It’s Time to Recognize That Your Kavanaugh Playbook Didn’t Work

$1:

With Susan Collins of Maine and Joe Manchin of West Virginia saying they will vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, it appears the confirmation battle is almost over. (Then again, all it would take to suddenly change the calculus would be two Republican senators going wobbly.)

I doubt Democrats want to take any advice at this moment, particularly from someone like me, but hopefully sometime soon, they’ll have a reckoning that their tactics in this fight did not work.

The protesters constantly interrupting the hearing did not work.

Going over Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbooks as if they were something from The Da Vinci Code and trying to ascribe some sinister meanings to teenage slang such as “boof” and “Devil’s Triangle” did not work.

Trying to make Kavanaugh sound like the Bluto Blutarsky of Yale University did not work.

Suggesting that Kavanaugh is some sort of threat to girls on basketball teams did not work.

Portraying his daughter praying for forgiveness for her father in an editorial cartoon did not work.

The era of broad bipartisan consensuses for Supreme Court nominees ended with John Roberts or Samuel Alito. If a Senate Democrat wants to vote against a nominee like Kavanaugh because they don’t like his past decisions, or they think he won’t uphold Roe v. Wade, or they don’t like his work in George W. Bush’s administration, that’s fine.

But when Christine Blasey Ford came forward with her accusation, the Senate Judiciary Committee could have and should handled that information discreetly and privately, without leaking Ford’s name to the press. Committee staff and investigators could have interviewed Ford in California, as well as any other relevant witnesses anywhere else in the country. There was no reason to turn Ford’s life upside down, other than that someone with access to her information wanted to force an on-camera testimony. We don’t know who this person is — ESHOO! Sorry, I sneezed there for a moment.

Let’s observe that if any of the witnesses Ford named had corroborated any part of her account, this nomination fight probably would have ended differently. If P. J. Smyth or Leland Keyser had said, “I remember the party, I remember them being upstairs, but I don’t know what happened in that room” or, “After they turned up the music, I couldn’t hear what was happening,” a lot of Republicans would have paused and found the allegation more credible. The scene Ford described — teenagers drinking, no parents or responsible adults around — certainly sounded plausible enough. But Ford’s account needed corroborating witnesses, and no one she named could corroborate that such a party ever occurred, never mind one at which an assault took place.

The accusation at Yale also sounded plausible enough — college freshmen drinking heavily, games and pranks getting way out of hand — but they couldn’t find anyone besides the accuser who claimed Kavanaugh was at the party. The shoddy journalism of The New Yorker, breathlessly touting the accusation and admitting deep in the story that they couldn’t find a single person to corroborate that Kavanaugh was at the party, did not work.

And the Democratic Party could do itself a huge favor by disassociating itself from Michael Avenatti forever. The first two accusers at least described plausible scenarios. Julie Swetnick described Maryland high schoolers (Kavanaugh would be 15 going on 16 in the first year of her claims) running something that sounds like it would come out of the time of Caligula or Nero, or Eyes Wide Shut — with dozens of victims and witnesses and no one ever telling a single parent, teacher, police officer, or other authority figure. From Collins’s remarks, this outlandish tale, with zero compelling evidence, horrified her. Wildly implausible claims will only harm future women who come forward with actual cases of sexual assault.

All of the accusations that any senator considering voting to confirm was “supporting rape” did not work. That big protest in the Senate office building yesterday did not work. All of the reporters decided to abandon any pretense of objectivity and treated Kavanaugh as if he was guilty until proven innocent . . . and it didn’t work.

COMMENTS
It backfired, guys. There was a time when conservatives thought of the old guard, people like Orrin Hatch and Chuck Grassley, as decorum-obsessed squishes, with no stomach for a real fight. No more. You guys turned Lindsey Graham into a honey badger and Susan Collins into Margaret Thatcher.

This has been an ugly, nasty, vicious couple of weeks in American politics. I don’t expect anybody over on the other side to recognize that their tactics were morally wrong. But I do expect them to recognize that their tactics didn’t work.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/k ... -not-work/

So c'mon Dems:

[Freakinoldguy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

There is a point to be made here though:

BRAH BRAH:

The Left's last Hail Mary failed, it's over.

Democrats, It’s Time to Recognize That Your Kavanaugh Playbook Didn’t Work

$1:

With Susan Collins of Maine and Joe Manchin of West Virginia saying they will vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh, it appears the confirmation battle is almost over. (Then again, all it would take to suddenly change the calculus would be two Republican senators going wobbly.)

I doubt Democrats want to take any advice at this moment, particularly from someone like me, but hopefully sometime soon, they’ll have a reckoning that their tactics in this fight did not work.

The protesters constantly interrupting the hearing did not work.

Going over Kavanaugh’s high-school yearbooks as if they were something from The Da Vinci Code and trying to ascribe some sinister meanings to teenage slang such as “boof” and “Devil’s Triangle” did not work.

Trying to make Kavanaugh sound like the Bluto Blutarsky of Yale University did not work.

Suggesting that Kavanaugh is some sort of threat to girls on basketball teams did not work.

Portraying his daughter praying for forgiveness for her father in an editorial cartoon did not work.

The era of broad bipartisan consensuses for Supreme Court nominees ended with John Roberts or Samuel Alito. If a Senate Democrat wants to vote against a nominee like Kavanaugh because they don’t like his past decisions, or they think he won’t uphold Roe v. Wade, or they don’t like his work in George W. Bush’s administration, that’s fine.

But when Christine Blasey Ford came forward with her accusation, the Senate Judiciary Committee could have and should handled that information discreetly and privately, without leaking Ford’s name to the press. Committee staff and investigators could have interviewed Ford in California, as well as any other relevant witnesses anywhere else in the country. There was no reason to turn Ford’s life upside down, other than that someone with access to her information wanted to force an on-camera testimony. We don’t know who this person is — ESHOO! Sorry, I sneezed there for a moment.

Let’s observe that if any of the witnesses Ford named had corroborated any part of her account, this nomination fight probably would have ended differently. If P. J. Smyth or Leland Keyser had said, “I remember the party, I remember them being upstairs, but I don’t know what happened in that room” or, “After they turned up the music, I couldn’t hear what was happening,” a lot of Republicans would have paused and found the allegation more credible. The scene Ford described — teenagers drinking, no parents or responsible adults around — certainly sounded plausible enough. But Ford’s account needed corroborating witnesses, and no one she named could corroborate that such a party ever occurred, never mind one at which an assault took place.

The accusation at Yale also sounded plausible enough — college freshmen drinking heavily, games and pranks getting way out of hand — but they couldn’t find anyone besides the accuser who claimed Kavanaugh was at the party. The shoddy journalism of The New Yorker, breathlessly touting the accusation and admitting deep in the story that they couldn’t find a single person to corroborate that Kavanaugh was at the party, did not work.

And the Democratic Party could do itself a huge favor by disassociating itself from Michael Avenatti forever. The first two accusers at least described plausible scenarios. Julie Swetnick described Maryland high schoolers (Kavanaugh would be 15 going on 16 in the first year of her claims) running something that sounds like it would come out of the time of Caligula or Nero, or Eyes Wide Shut — with dozens of victims and witnesses and no one ever telling a single parent, teacher, police officer, or other authority figure. From Collins’s remarks, this outlandish tale, with zero compelling evidence, horrified her. Wildly implausible claims will only harm future women who come forward with actual cases of sexual assault.

All of the accusations that any senator considering voting to confirm was “supporting rape” did not work. That big protest in the Senate office building yesterday did not work. All of the reporters decided to abandon any pretense of objectivity and treated Kavanaugh as if he was guilty until proven innocent . . . and it didn’t work.

COMMENTS
It backfired, guys. There was a time when conservatives thought of the old guard, people like Orrin Hatch and Chuck Grassley, as decorum-obsessed squishes, with no stomach for a real fight. No more. You guys turned Lindsey Graham into a honey badger and Susan Collins into Margaret Thatcher.

This has been an ugly, nasty, vicious couple of weeks in American politics. I don’t expect anybody over on the other side to recognize that their tactics were morally wrong. But I do expect them to recognize that their tactics didn’t work.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/k ... -not-work/

The last line is likely the most accurate one I've seen since the left went insane trying to destroy the Bush administration.

[Thanos]

raydan raydan:

If Trump declares himself "supreme leader" for life, I wonder what that well trained militia (that is, Republicans with guns) will do. Chances are, since it's their guy, they'll sit back and do nothing.

That's the thing with both monarchs and mob bosses, isn't it - they don't have to leave the office if they don't want to.

[N_Fiddledog]

[N_Fiddledog]

Kavanaugh, just now, officially confirmed as a Justice of the Supreme Court.

50 - 48

[N_Fiddledog]

WINNING!!!

[martin14]

[Thanos]

The king now has his stooge in place to ensure perpetual immunity and you can bet you're bottom dollar that Kavanaugh is just raging for the opportunity to be the vote on the court that gets to someday, soon, endorse an all-American version of the Enabling Act.

Yup, the door just slammed shut on America as we knew it and that boot is just waiting to smash down on a human face for the rest of forever. MAGA!

[MeganC]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

WINNING!!!

[Cheer]