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Woodhead
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:35 pm
fifeboy fifeboy: RUEZ RUEZ: Actually yes Canada has done well under the Liberals and Conservatives. Look around. The NDP has governed provincially and they've f'ed it up royally. Typical RUEZ BS. You never saw them in Ontario eh
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:36 pm
fifeboy fifeboy: RUEZ RUEZ: Actually yes Canada has done well under the Liberals and Conservatives. Look around. The NDP has governed provincially and they've f'ed it up royally. Typical RUEZ BS. Really? Typical Ruez BS? What's typical about it. I'll bet I can get a few people to agree with me about the NDP. I guess that's just a typical fifey answer.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:38 pm
Woodhead Woodhead: fifeboy fifeboy: RUEZ RUEZ: Actually yes Canada has done well under the Liberals and Conservatives. Look around. The NDP has governed provincially and they've f'ed it up royally. Typical RUEZ BS. You never saw them in Ontario eh Or BC, they screwed us royally. They nearly shut down the entire mining industry. They are responsible for the pine beetle problem. And their forest practices code was just red tape wrapped in red tape.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:38 pm
The NDP in Saskatchewan didn't do too bad a job.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:56 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: fifeboy fifeboy: RUEZ RUEZ: Actually yes Canada has done well under the Liberals and Conservatives. Look around. The NDP has governed provincially and they've f'ed it up royally. Typical RUEZ BS. Really? Typical Ruez BS? What's typical about it. I'll bet I can get a few people to agree with me about the NDP. I guess that's just a typical fifey answer. Actually the provincial NDP parties in the West are quite different fom their federal counterparts. They're more pragmatic because they know they have a chance of getting elected. They've remained closer to the ideals that the NDP was founded on, and kept the wingnuts out that infected the federal Party. Also, since provincial Liberal parties are almost non existant in the West, those who normally would vote Liberal, support the NDP. As a result their support doesn't come from just the fringe left, but all across the left all the way to the centre, and this is reflected in how they govern.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:00 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Actually the provincial NDP parties in the West are quite different fom their federal counterparts. They're more pragmatic because they know they have a chance of getting elected. They've remained closer to the ideals that the NDP was founded on, and kept the wingnuts out that infected the federal Party.
Also, since provincial Liberal parties are almost non existant in the West, those who normally would vote Liberal, support the NDP. As a result their support doesn't come from just the fringe left, but all across the left all the way to the centre, and this is reflected in how they govern. It's hard to judge the federal NDP as they've never done anything.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:05 pm
....and never will.
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Woodhead
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Posts: 100
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:12 pm
In Ontario they got in a few years ago because everybody was totally disgusted with the PC,s and Libs, so they said, eh, what the hell, how bad can it be. it was bad, real bad.
Bad enough that Bob Ray who was the premier, switched over to federal liberals. please do not vote this guy is a Liberal leader.
PS Up here, we refer to Jack Layton as a porn star..just look at him
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:33 pm
Woodhead Woodhead: fifeboy fifeboy: RUEZ RUEZ: Actually yes Canada has done well under the Liberals and Conservatives. Look around. The NDP has governed provincially and they've f'ed it up royally. Typical RUEZ BS. You never saw them in Ontario eh That's correct. But I understand they did almost as poorly as the conservatives. When I lived in Ontario, Bill Davis was in charge. A different sort of guy.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:36 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Actually the provincial NDP parties in the West are quite different fom their federal counterparts. They're more pragmatic because they know they have a chance of getting elected. They've remained closer to the ideals that the NDP was founded on, and kept the wingnuts out that infected the federal Party.
Also, since provincial Liberal parties are almost non existant in the West, those who normally would vote Liberal, support the NDP. As a result their support doesn't come from just the fringe left, but all across the left all the way to the centre, and this is reflected in how they govern.
Well said.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:52 pm
.. except it's wrong. I'm not sure how the BC Liberal party is almost non-existant when it's going for it's 2nd term.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:58 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: .. except it's wrong. I'm not sure how the BC Liberal party is almost non-existant when it's going for it's 2nd term. Well, you would have more information on this than myself. My experience with NDP provincial governments have been in Saskatchewan and Manitoba. In both they have done and do quite well.
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:05 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: .. except it's wrong. I'm not sure how the BC Liberal party is almost non-existant when it's going for it's 2nd term. You mean the the Party formerly known as the BC Social-Credit Party(and no the Reform Party of BC was only the far right fringe of the So-Creds), the de facto conservative party of BC? I was a member once Riden. The name change might be misleading to those who never lived in BC.
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 2:25 pm
Tman1 Tman1: The NDP in Saskatchewan didn't do too bad a job. you mean drive the economy into the tank and be the second only province in Canada to have negative population growth? hum I guess my definition of bad is quite different than yours.
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:33 pm
uwish uwish: Tman1 Tman1: The NDP in Saskatchewan didn't do too bad a job. you mean drive the economy into the tank and be the second only province in Canada to have negative population growth? hum I guess my definition of bad is quite different than yours. Never been to LaLoche eh! This old chestnut keeps coming up when discussing Saskatchewan. No, there was not piles of growth until recently, but the people living here were prosperous and working hard to dig themselves out of the pit produced by the Conservatives when they were in power. That's why we have the Sask Party, it's a reaction to the gut turning response everyone in Saskatchewan gets when Grant Divine is mentioned. The NDP was voted out of office after more than 10 years in office. They will be back. Right now its time for the Sask Party to govern.
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