herbie herbie:
I've paid $300 a MONTH to heat the house in winter.
Maybe you should consider putting some plastic over your windows or something. $300 / month is just nuts unless you live on the south pole.
herbie herbie:
It's pretty clear a lot of people are anti-environment on this site. Any damned excuse to do nothing at all will do.
Why is it that by not supporting Dion’s Green Shift people are instantly labeled anti-environment?
Dion’s plan proposes to place $40 / tonne on emissions and then ….. what? Cross our fingers and hope like hell to hit the very targets set out in Kyoto that Dion himself signed onto? Why is Dion’s plan the only plan Herb? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if this is the type of action you would like to see on climate change the Greens plan is a far better model but I don’t see many Liberals in the crowd acknowledging that fact.
Now you seem to be more up to speed on this than I am so please humor us and show us how Dion’s plan will actually affect real change. What are the targets? When will we meet them by? What are the real costs of the program and what can we expect in exchange for those higher prices in terms of reductions? Is there value for the money we are expected to put out under Dion’s plan?
By all means Herb, spell it out to me.
Do you want to know why I think people like yourself claim that people who don’t support Dion’s plan are anti-environment? Because you have nothing else you can throw out in terms of an honest argument to defend Dions plan because there’s nothing in it about the environment and therefore you have to turn to name calling as a last resort.
CKA Elite 
