[Blue_Nose]

Wada Wada:

I care cause we don' want no racist cops around here. Keepim' in the city if you must.

I'm talking about this discussion, and following up on what Zip posted.

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

So that’s you’re answer, google an anti police website after the “Fucking police” comment?
Come on, make an argument to support the anti police position you have taken.
And give me an example of police being treated differently in the justice system.
Back up these brave words.

Paul Koester. Ian Bush lay dead for hours in a Houston police station while Koester did bugger-all--except tamper with evidence to exonaerate himself. Ian Bush was shot in the head about 21:50. They finally got around to notifying Ian's family at about 3 am the next morning, several hours after his death.

Can you imagine if anyone else pulled a stunt like that? But Koester, despite several gaping holes in his testimony, walked.

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

So that’s you’re answer, google an anti police website after the “Fucking police” comment?
Come on, make an argument to support the anti police position you have taken.
And give me an example of police being treated differently in the justice system.
Back up these brave words.

Paul Koester. Ian Bush lay dead for hours in a Houston police station while Koester did bugger-all--except tamper with evidence to exonaerate himself. Ian Bush was shot in the head about 21:50. They finally got around to notifying Ian's family at about 3 am the next morning, several hours after his death.

Can you imagine if anyone else pulled a stunt like that? But Koester, despite several gaping holes in his testimony, walked.

60,000 cops in Canada and you come up with one case? Hardly an overwhelming indictment.

[EyeBrock]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

So that’s you’re answer, google an anti police website after the “Fucking police” comment?
Come on, make an argument to support the anti police position you have taken.
And give me an example of police being treated differently in the justice system.
Back up these brave words.

Your kidding right?

RCMP employee charged in BC drug bust - http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoe ... 7caeacb6d3

BC bus rider dies in police custody - http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story ... e26f7343bf

RCMP complaints commission clears Mountie in B.C. pepper spray incident - http://canadianpress.google.com/article ... LbWUs2qc2Q

With such goodies as "The officer was accused of improper use of force in the incident, in which several members of the Sechelt Indian Band, including a seven-month-old baby, were sprayed last Canada Day weekend on the Sunshine Coast, north of Vancouver."


Should I keep going?

Keep going, that means 3 incidents for 60,000 cops. You did an amazing job of proving your point. Also note the use of the word 'accused' as in not yet proven.

A few incidents by the odd idiot doesn't mean that all cops are knobheads. But it would appear some on this forum think that way.

[EyeBrock]

lily lily:

You asked for an example, he gave you one.

next time ask for 5... or 15....

Yes, I erred asking for one.


Maybe I could ask for incidents that prove that say 1% of the 60,000 cops in Canada are being treated differently then eh?

Thanks for intervening on his behalf lily. You could always try posting an opinion on this thread instead of just picking holes in my points though eh?

[EyeBrock]

I'd take your point if you backed it up with meaningful facts Lily. The 4 or 5 supposed cases others have brought up make an extremely small percentage of the Canadian police population. To tar all of them with the same brush because of a few idiots is blatently unfair. Your opinion is not supported by facts, which makes it a bias.

[EyeBrock]

And your what?

[EyeBrock]

Oh it is! But I wanted a cough to your bias!

[EyeBrock]

They don't Lily. These kind of things are quite rare. There are pockets of stupid 'police culture' but they usually end up badly.

This thing in Digby appears nasty but I'll wait for the outcome of the investigation. There is a long history in NS of bad relations with the NS blacks and the Cops. I'm sure there is blame on both sides here.

[acidcomplex]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The 4 or 5 supposed cases others have brought up make an extremely small percentage of the Canadian police population. To tar all of them with the same brush because of a few idiots is blatently unfair. Your opinion is not supported by facts, which makes it a bias.

As some else once said, its easy to dismiss sources you dont like. The fact is simple. It happenes way more often then it should. and while I agree that 75 percent of police are great and are there for the right reasons, the other 25 are not.

The main point of disccusion is that the ones who do get caught and are bad and are let off 99.9 perecent of the time. When In the very same instance had the cop not been a cop he would be sitting in jail with a stretched asshole.

<----- his cellmates

[CommanderSock]

From what I see it wasn't an issue. Some racist redneck bigot (that happens to be a cop), called 2 blacks niggers, they got angry, the cop swung, the blacks beat him up, end of story. Move on people.

If anything it proves our government is not as racist as the people that work within its sphere of influence. They decided it was a non issue an no charges were laid. Better than a witch hunt, for either party.

[stemmer]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

Im so sick of the police in this country. They never get in any shit

"It's our understanding of this incident that no Halifax regional police member acted in an inappropriate manner."

Ha of course it is. I call for there badges lol

I wonder IF the police every walked off their jobs in your town IF you would applaud their actions or plea for their return...

[ziggy]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

So that’s you’re answer, google an anti police website after the “Fucking police” comment?
Come on, make an argument to support the anti police position you have taken.
And give me an example of police being treated differently in the justice system.
Back up these brave words.

Paul Koester. Ian Bush lay dead for hours in a Houston police station while Koester did bugger-all--except tamper with evidence to exonaerate himself. Ian Bush was shot in the head about 21:50. They finally got around to notifying Ian's family at about 3 am the next morning, several hours after his death.

Can you imagine if anyone else pulled a stunt like that? But Koester, despite several gaping holes in his testimony, walked.

60,000 cops in Canada and you come up with one case? Hardly an overwhelming indictment.

I could bring up the guy I worked with(Varley) who was shot in the head and stomach while in a holding cell in pincher creek and the cop pleaded self defense and after many trials has to serve 2 years under house arrest for manslaughter.

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

So that’s you’re answer, google an anti police website after the “Fucking police” comment?
Come on, make an argument to support the anti police position you have taken.
And give me an example of police being treated differently in the justice system.
Back up these brave words.

Paul Koester. Ian Bush lay dead for hours in a Houston police station while Koester did bugger-all--except tamper with evidence to exonaerate himself. Ian Bush was shot in the head about 21:50. They finally got around to notifying Ian's family at about 3 am the next morning, several hours after his death.

Can you imagine if anyone else pulled a stunt like that? But Koester, despite several gaping holes in his testimony, walked.

60,000 cops in Canada and you come up with one case? Hardly an overwhelming indictment.

One case--but you gotta admit, it's a lulu. I agree with Lily--most cops are great. Even some of the bad ones used to be good before the job got to them.

But there is no doubt in my mind that cops treat cops differently than Joe Citizen. It's my personal opinuon that police forces in general aren't good enough at reigning in this kind of thing.

[ziggy]

One law for us,one law for them. Darren was very meek,about 140 pounds soaking wet,Ferguson towered over him.

$1:

Former RCMP officer Mike Ferguson has been given a conditional sentence, meaning he will not spend any more time in jail for the shooting death of a prisoner.
Court of Queen's Bench Justice Ged Hawco gave Ferguson two years less a day to be served in the community.

Hawco granted a constitutional exemption, allowing him to hand down a sentence less than the four-year minimum required by law for a manslaughter conviction involving a gun.



Former RCMP officer Mike Ferguson (CP Photo)

Ferguson's lawyer Earl Wilson had argued for the exemption, saying that as a police officer he was required to carry a gun.

The Crown had pushed for a six-year sentence.

Ferguson shot and killed 26-year-old Darren Varley in the holding cell of the Pincher Creek RCMP detachment in October 1999. Varley, who had been arrested for public drunkenness, was shot once in the stomach and once in the head.

The sentencing brings to a close a case that began five years ago and took three trials to reach a conclusion. There were hung juries in Ferguson's first two trials, and in the third the jury found him guilty of manslaughter, but not of second-degree murder.

The Crown had argued that Ferguson shot Varley in a fit of rage. Ferguson said it was self defence, after Varley pulled his bullet-proof vest over his head and tried to grab his gun.

Ferguson, who had been a Mountie for almost 20 years, resigned from the RCMP Wednesday.