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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:59 am
 


Streaker Streaker:
"Be my friend - or else!" seems like a pretty dumb way of trying to make friends. :?

America is a big fat elephant in the worlds living room knocking your tv set over when you're trying to watch the game, eating your bag of peanuts seemingly without a care in the world.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:13 am
 


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First off, the article was supposedly about why Canadians are supposedly obligated to hate America and then the guy just goes off and spews more hate at America. Nice. :roll:

Second, I do not understand the general Canadian fascination with obsessing about the USA. It's really very French, in my opinion.

Now let me clarify that my comments are only directed at the seeming majority who obsess about the USA. Yes, I know some of you could care less about the USA and this is not at all directed at you.

We are a different country, as Derby so aptly pointed out last year. If you could accept that and not play some silly, pointless pissing war over who is better or worse in what regard we'd get along much better.

For instance, the general Canadian fascination with US health care comes to mind. What the hell do you care about how we manage and get on with health care? It's not as if you pay for our uninsured people out of Ottawa's general budget. Yet you act like you do. For some of you imposing a national socialised health care scheme on the USA would appear to be your raison de vivre.

I often wonder that many Americans probably oppose a national health care scheme simply for that we don't want you folks to get the idea that we did it at your suggestion. :idea:

Yes, I understand that we're right next door and kind of hard to ignore. But still, if you obsessive folks paid as much attention to Canada as you do to bashing the USA then Canada would be one damn fine and spiffy place.

Frankly, if you hate the USA then leave us alone. Focus on Canadian issues and Canadian problems and when you're confronted with a question about why people in some teensy town in Arizona have a high arsenic content in their water simply say, "Who cares, that would be America's problem."

Now, I am the first person to note that most Americans cannot find America on a map of America. :idea:

Our education elites - liberals all of them - decided forty years ago that the sciences in general were not to be a focus of education in the USA anymore because kids who failed at the sciences suffered from poor self esteem when they were advised of their shortcomings. Geography used to be an entire subject unto itself that was taught in American schools and now it is something that a social sciences teacher is expected to gloss over in a one hour class once per year.

It is no surprise to me that Americans have become more and more illiterate over the years despite higher and higher graduation rates in the schools. The schools are simply graduating the ignorant.

Consequently, the NEA and their members adamantly oppose standardized testing as a means of forcing teachers to teach meaningful subjects and as a means of forcing liberalised curriculae to be thrown away in favour of actually preparing students to succeed in the real world.

My wife and I have for years subsidized young people who attend private elementary schools, secondary schools, and colleges such as Hillsdale College for the exact reason that the only way to save children from the ignorance being promulgated in the public schools is to support the private schools that provide a traditional and rigorous education. One of our young charges defended her doctoral thesis at Oxford in 2004 and we are singularly pleased that we contributed to that.

The children we've sponsored over the years are knowledgeable, literate, and creative courtesy of the foundation of learning they've been exposed to.

My reason for posting this is because if you really want to improve America you'd stop obsessing about our health care, our tax rates, and other minutiae and you'd pay more attention to the crappy educations our children are receiving in the union and liberal dominated public schools.

Our kids are not going to ever know sh*t about Canada because our schools don't teach one bloody thing anymore past how to put on a condom and how to vote Democrat. :idea:


Last time I checked, the schools here were pretty REPUBLICAN. You must live in a VERY democratic state, Bart, it's not all the fault of the teacher's unions here, not by a long shot. And while your teachers unions have enough control to prevent much needed change coming their way they don't have THAT much control as to control absolutely everything about American society that they are to blame for all of your woes. They had help. Lots of help from other areas such as politics, the media (who is not as liberal as you might think) and even religion. Bart, it's hard not to be focused on America when America's power and influence sort of dictate that kind of obsession. It might be our quirk and the quirk of other nations to be obsessed about America but as they say, when you are the elephant, it's hard not to toss a huge shadow over EVERYTHING. And I am not suprised that the elephant does not notice that, so to speak.

America isn't evil, but it needs to clean up it's act. And no, that is not too big a thing to ask especially since America is asking for as much power and spotlight as it is. Think of it as only right to pay rent for that palace you built yourself.





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OPP OPP:
Streaker Streaker:
"Be my friend - or else!" seems like a pretty dumb way of trying to make friends. :?

America be a big fat elephant in de wo'lds livin' room knockin' yo' tv set upside when youse tryin' t'watch de game, feedin' da bud yo' bag uh peanuts seemin'ly widout some care in de wo'ld.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:10 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
OPP OPP:
Streaker Streaker:
"Be my friend - or else!" seems like a pretty dumb way of trying to make friends. :?

America be a big fat elephant in de wo'lds livin' room knockin' yo' tv set upside when youse tryin' t'watch de game, feedin' da bud yo' bag uh peanuts seemin'ly widout some care in de wo'ld.


:roll: :lol:

PDT_Armataz_01_37 Good of you to translate it for simpletons like yourself.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:32 am
 


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As a Canadian living in the US I can say there is much to laugh at, and some things to hate, but I think in the end I have to pity many[....]and become a global participant on par with the rest of the world.

Just my opinion... I could be wrong. R=UP



Living right on the border, I would have to disagree with this.


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I find it hard to hate people I don't know, but look about at what America has become.
I used to have respect for America and what they stood for, now I am living next door to two groups of people, the fear mongers who create imaginary enemies and the people who fear them beyond reason. America is behaving like some 19th century colonial empire stating there must be a regime change for any nation they don't like. America started a war in Iraq for no good reason and anyone including Canadians were somehow siding with the enemy if we didn't take their side.
America embarked on some conservative right wing, economic voo doo scheme that has placed the whole worlds economic stability at risk. This nation should start to mind its own business when it comes to other countries, it has to understand just because some nations don't want to share their resourses with them, they have no right to overthrow their government and take them.
We follow what is happening because we are educated enough to know you must keep an eye on governments with unstable ideologies like the born again right that currently invades the mind set of America. These people having been living in a fantasy world economically socially and politically.
The chickens are coming home to roost and in terms of the economy and lifestyle we enjoy their actions reflect on our markets and so on.
It is sad what has happend to America but as for hating America or Americans, well I find it counter productive and a waste of time having a hate on for people I don't know and by their recent irratic behavior I don't understand.
the problem is America doesn't know we are here, and they should without our oil and other resourse they would be in one hell of a mess. They are living in their self centred little world that is about to crumble around them. And don't worry America will soon join the rest of the industrialized world and have a full government sponsored universal medicare plan too. The other thing that is coming is, if the economy goes south, their will be a mass dose of socialism in America, for the fact is with a 53 trillion dollar debt and no way to pay it, unbridled capitalism didn't work either


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:06 am
 


Paragraphs please, I lost interest at I.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:45 am
 


It's a common misunderstanding among people who lack a certain amount of ability to reason, to think that hating a country's policies is the same as hating all of the people who live there.


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I am not sure,,, but I would suspect the 15% of so called Canadians who hate the US and the people would be from the middle east? maybe.... I do not hate the US.. or the people.. it is the US policy and the Bush administrations efforts to control the world.. the idea that their policies and their way of democracy is the best for everyone and evey country in the world.. its true they are disliked ( I dont like the term hate).. around the world.. I recently went on a tour of Europe and the group I went with were told to wear Canadian pin flags or some clothing with Canada on it... we were well received .. I witnessed an American couple in a bar who were having trouble being served and I asked our guide about it.. she told me that experience has shown that they feel they are superior and act with disrespect for the country they are visiting.... this couple did become obnoxious and kept yelling that they were Americans for ----C----t sakes and went on and on.. I know that not all americans are like that.. but its true what they say that they are disliked through out the world...


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