[OPP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

Wal Mart's just using the same system as all big business does, if we leave the worker issue aside. Microsoft isn't exactly meeting much competition and their standing could be compared to a monopoly.

[romanP]

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

Wal Mart's just using the same system as all big business does, if we leave the worker issue aside. Microsoft isn't exactly meeting much competition and their standing could be compared to a monopoly.

The difference between Microsoft and WalMart is that Microsoft treats its workers VERY well. They get paid well, some of them even have leisure time and access to leisure and fitness facilities, and in the end Microsoft creates a product that helps other businesses get their work done. Microsoft employees probably get benefits, and if not they probably make enough money to pay for some other form of insurance.

WalMart does none of these things. All WalMart does is sell shit that was made by people in another country who did so in miserable working conditions for barely enough money to live. They often destroy local economies by underselling every business in town, so that skilled workers have no choice but to work a job they're more than overqualified for. WalMart refuses to pay its workers any benefits or offer any health insurance whatsoever, which actually makes them a strain on the entire American economy.

[Canadian_Mind]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

I'm not always a fan of unions, but Wal Mart is a perfect example of why they're needed.

FYI - I have not shopped at a Wal Mart since 2004 when I found out they were indirectly connected to the execution of a group of teenage girls in Tibet who had the sheer nerve to discuss Tibetan independence in school. I've posted the grisly pictures of those executions on this site before and since hearing about that atrocity and seeing the proof of it I've been unable to shop at Wal Mart which is now 30% of China's economy.

And were I to meet one of the Chinese soldiers who executed those little girls I doubt I could stop myself from attacking them with the absolute intent to kill them. They deserve to die and so do China's leaders for orchestrating this and who knows how many other atrocities.

And were a Wal Mart executive on fire I wouldn't piss on them to put it out.

heh, is that a good enough reason to join the army and pray we go to war with china, so we free people can be given an opportunity to slaughter the oppressive bastards?

speaking of which, do you have a link to the pictures and story, I'd like to know how wal-mart is connected.

[OPP]

romanP romanP:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

Wal Mart's just using the same system as all big business does, if we leave the worker issue aside. Microsoft isn't exactly meeting much competition and their standing could be compared to a monopoly.

The difference between Microsoft and WalMart is that Microsoft treats its workers VERY well. They get paid well, some of them even have leisure time and access to leisure and fitness facilities, and in the end Microsoft creates a product that helps other businesses get their work done. Microsoft employees probably get benefits, and if not they probably make enough money to pay for some other form of insurance.

WalMart does none of these things. All WalMart does is sell shit that was made by people in another country who did so in miserable working conditions for barely enough money to live. They often destroy local economies by underselling every business in town, so that skilled workers have no choice but to work a job they're more than overqualified for. WalMart refuses to pay its workers any benefits or offer any health insurance whatsoever, which actually makes them a strain on the entire American economy.

Maybe you didn't quite pick up on what I was trying to say. I bolded the part you should have read.

[BartSimpson]

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

Wal Mart's just using the same system as all big business does, if we leave the worker issue aside. Microsoft isn't exactly meeting much competition and their standing could be compared to a monopoly.

Microsoft isn't financing the murder of little girls in Tibet. Big difference there.

[OPP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

OPP OPP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I know - China should really teach us miscreants a lesson and cut off trade with us.

Wal Mart would have to close up shop.

We'd need to open furniture factories, electronics factories, toy factories, auto parts suppliers, steel foundries, aluminum smelters, and etc. etc, etc. - gosh, we'd have to create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of well-paying jobs to meet the consumer demand left wanting by the absence of China.

And forgive me if I'm not seeing a downside to telling China to f*** off and die.

What? I thought you loved the "free" market system. After all, wasn't that what America's all about?

Free markets require free competition and Wal Mart is anti-competitive and abusive of its workers in the extreme. Unpaid overtime is common at Wal Marts and Wal Mart will close up a store at a cost of millions before allowing the workers to unionize.

Wal Mart's just using the same system as all big business does, if we leave the worker issue aside. Microsoft isn't exactly meeting much competition and their standing could be compared to a monopoly.

Microsoft isn't financing the murder of little girls in Tibet. Big difference there.

But, for Gods sake! I was talking competition and free market! What difference is there then???? HA???

[neopundit]

romanP romanP:

The difference between Microsoft and WalMart is that Microsoft treats its workers VERY well. They get paid well, some of them even have leisure time and access to leisure and fitness facilities, and in the end Microsoft creates a product that helps other businesses get their work done. Microsoft employees probably get benefits, and if not they probably make enough money to pay for some other form of insurance.

WalMart also pays it's employees well. In fact, it pays them much more than the 0 dollars they'd be earning if WalMart wasn't there.

$1:

All WalMart does is sell shit that was made by people in another country who did so in miserable working conditions for barely enough money to live.

To low income families who are quite happy to get low prices from WalMart.

$1:

They often destroy local economies by underselling every business in town, so that skilled workers have no choice but to work a job they're more than overqualified for.

Rubbish. If they are underselling other businesses that means that consumers are getting lower prices. I can't help it if Ma and Pa's groceries marks everything up 5% and WalMart sells shit on tiny margins. If you feel so bad, but stuff at WalMart and donate the difference to Ma and Pa. Crisis averted.

Also, how are they displacing skilled workers?

$1:

WalMart refuses to pay its workers any benefits or offer any health insurance whatsoever, which actually makes them a strain on the entire American economy.

Not true. Are they less than you're going to get working for the Big 3? Yeah, but they are better than nothing.

[TattoodGirl]

Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link

[neopundit]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link

How many other jobs offer benefits to people who work less than 34 hours?

34 hours is considered full time and you are entitled to benefits. I realize that WalMart uses this to schedule around the 34 hour stipulation, reducing benefits paid. But really, how much do people who work a completely unskilled job deserve? I thought that is what mimimum wage was? WalMart pays more than that.

[BartSimpson]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

heh, is that a good enough reason to join the army and pray we go to war with china, so we free people can be given an opportunity to slaughter the oppressive bastards?

And I suggested that people join the army and kill the Chinese...when? I just don't want spend my money on them is all.

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

speaking of which, do you have a link to the pictures and story, I'd like to know how wal-mart is connected.

As I said, Wal Mart is connected indirectly.

And the pictures are here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350794/posts

and please do not repost them on this site. Thanks.

[BartSimpson]

OPP OPP:

But, for Gods sake! I was talking competition and free market! What difference is there then???? HA???

Fine, Microsoft still is not the monopolistic monster that Wal Mart is.

[TattoodGirl]

neopundit neopundit:

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

Benefits are not included in employment with Walmart unless you work 34+ hours per week.

You may find this document from the Board of Directors interesting Link

How many other jobs offer benefits to people who work less than 34 hours?

34 hours is considered full time and you are entitled to benefits. I realize that WalMart uses this to schedule around the 34 hour stipulation, reducing benefits paid. But really, how much do people who work a completely unskilled job deserve? I thought that is what mimimum wage was? WalMart pays more than that.

They (Walmart) keep most of their employees under 34 hours a week. Did I mention anything about Wages? No. I dont support walmart due to the fact that they support countries with Human Rights Atrocities. I also make a conscious decision before buying anything, by seeing where it is made first. Im just not a Capitalist thats all.

[BartSimpson]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

They (Wal Mart)keep most of their employees under 34 hours a week. Did I mention anything about Wages? No. I dont support walmart due to the fact that they support countries with Human Rights Atrocities. I also make a conscious decision before buying anything, by seeing where it is made first.

[TattoodGirl]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

They (Wal Mart)keep most of their employees under 34 hours a week. Did I mention anything about Wages? No. I dont support walmart due to the fact that they support countries with Human Rights Atrocities. I also make a conscious decision before buying anything, by seeing where it is made first.

Thanks for the heads up Bart!
Editing done.

[ShepherdsDog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

heh, is that a good enough reason to join the army and pray we go to war with china, so we free people can be given an opportunity to slaughter the oppressive bastards?

And I suggested that people join the army and kill the Chinese...when? I just don't want spend my money on them is all.

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

speaking of which, do you have a link to the pictures and story, I'd like to know how wal-mart is connected.

As I said, Wal Mart is connected indirectly.

And the pictures are here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350794/posts

and please do not repost them on this site. Thanks.

This is the true face of China, one they try to hide.