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[DrCaleb]

A little humour in all this. The guy who is running that rescue hovercraft has a good sense of History.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHqz2smoiq8

[xerxes]

He sure does.

Good news so far this morning. The pumps were able to keep working through the night thanks to the help of volunteers and city workers sandbagging the pumping station. The water is slowing starting to recede and if drops another meter, then some floodgates can be opened which will drain a lot more water. As long as we don’t get more rain, it’s not going to get worse.

[xerxes]

Some not so good news. An RV storage yard is on fire in the middle of the flooded area and is giving off toxic smoke.

[housewife]

Glad to hear you’re safe well as safe as you can be given everything going on!! I talked to my sister she’s safe too.
But the damage is going to effect everyone and everything for years to come from what your saying. Between this and the supply chain problem it’s going to be a rough year for everyone there and will bleed into the rest of the world with the ports cut off.

[DrCaleb]

I'm already reading estimates that this will be the most costly disaster in Canadian history, surpassing the McMurray fires, the 2013 Calgary flood, and the Quebec ice storms.

I want to say it, but I will refrain.

[herbie]

FYI you guys in ROC, the whole area flooded was a huge lake. They drained it, diked it and those farms were built on the former lakebed.
One huge problem is that pumps run continuously to send water back into the Fraser River, and they're failing.
The gov;t is rushing to bring temporary pumps in. If the Fraser gets back in Sumas Prairie will be Sumas Lake once again.
The water is creeping rather than rushing, so it's likely to deposit more silt than washing away topsoil.

My gripe of the day is that the National Post, in it's usual ignorance is reporting that "BC" is cut off from the rest of Canada.... as if the Lower Mainland = BC...
Stores here are running out - but will get supplied from Alberta warehouses instead of Langley ones. People are already panic buying though. Plus it's not like we don't have a container port and railway in Prince Rupert to get crap from China.

[xerxes]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'm already reading estimates that this will be the most costly disaster in Canadian history, surpassing the McMurray fires, the 2013 Calgary flood, and the Quebec ice storms.

I want to say it, but I will refrain.

Yeah, it feels like they’re glossing over it on the news, but this is going to cause a massive disruption to logistics. The Coquihalla looks like it’s going to be out of action for months and that’s bad. The highway was built in the 1980’s because the other main higways, the Trans Canada and the #3 couldn’t handle the volume of trucks; and that was forty years ago.

Also, like I mentioned previously, a lot of dairy products come from around here and there hasn’t been time yet to take stock of livestock losses but the disruption to milk production alone is going to be bad.

Inflation is already a problem in Canada because of a myriad of factors, but this flood will add to inflationary woes.

I think more effort is going to have to be put in to expanding the port in Prince Rupert and the highways out as an alternative to relying on the Trans Canada through the Fraser Valley. While flooding like this doesn’t happen often, it’s devastating when it does.

[DrCaleb]

xerxes xerxes:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I'm already reading estimates that this will be the most costly disaster in Canadian history, surpassing the McMurray fires, the 2013 Calgary flood, and the Quebec ice storms.

I want to say it, but I will refrain.

Yeah, it feels like they’re glossing over it on the news, but this is going to cause a massive disruption to logistics. The Coquihalla looks like it’s going to be out of action for months and that’s bad. The highway was built in the 1980’s because the other main higways, the Trans Canada and the #3 couldn’t handle the volume of trucks; and that was forty years ago.

Also, like I mentioned previously, a lot of dairy products come from around here and there hasn’t been time yet to take stock of livestock losses but the disruption to milk production alone is going to be bad.

Inflation is already a problem in Canada because of a myriad of factors, but this flood will add to inflationary woes.

I think more effort is going to have to be put in to expanding the port in Prince Rupert and the highways out as an alternative to relying on the Trans Canada through the Fraser Valley. While flooding like this doesn’t happen often, it’s devastating when it does.

Ok, you made me say it. All these costs might have been avoided if David Suzuki, David Attenbourough, Michael Mann et al. had been listened to instead of mocked by a certain segment of the population.

[raydan]

"listened", I guess.

Pretty sure they are still hated by a large percentage of the population. We all know that we can't live without pollution. Business can't go on without destruction.

[xerxes]

It’s a matter of investment too. The mayor here was saying that to properly upgrade the pumping station and dykes would cost half a billion dollars. The city definitely doesn’t have that kind of money and the province barely does.

[Thanos]

herbie herbie:

FYI you guys in ROC, the whole area flooded was a huge lake. They drained it, diked it and those farms were built on the former lakebed.
One huge problem is that pumps run continuously to send water back into the Fraser River, and they're failing.
The gov;t is rushing to bring temporary pumps in. If the Fraser gets back in Sumas Prairie will be Sumas Lake once again.
The water is creeping rather than rushing, so it's likely to deposit more silt than washing away topsoil.

Apparently the same sort of thing happened twice there in the 20th century, first in 1908 then again in 1948. So, like the Calgary floods, it's something that's happened before that everyone forgot about or didn't know about. The massive cost for the damages is that the area is now fully developed. Not just farms anymore. But covered in towns, new developments, businesses, golf courses, rec areas, etc, that weren't there in the 1940's.

[Scape]

State of emergency declared. Military called in.

[xerxes]

Thanos Thanos:

herbie herbie:

FYI you guys in ROC, the whole area flooded was a huge lake. They drained it, diked it and those farms were built on the former lakebed.
One huge problem is that pumps run continuously to send water back into the Fraser River, and they're failing.
The gov;t is rushing to bring temporary pumps in. If the Fraser gets back in Sumas Prairie will be Sumas Lake once again.
The water is creeping rather than rushing, so it's likely to deposit more silt than washing away topsoil.

Apparently the same sort of thing happened twice there in the 20th century, first in 1908 then again in 1948. So, like the Calgary floods, it's something that's happened before that everyone forgot about or didn't know about. The massive cost for the damages is that the area is now fully developed. Not just farms anymore. But covered in towns, new developments, businesses, golf courses, rec areas, etc, that weren't there in the 1940's.

Just to add, the worst recorded flood was in 1894. Then the flood waters reached from Harrison Lake all the way to Annacis Island in Richmond.

[Thanos]

Ouch. Hope you guys are doing OK out there.