[Delwin]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Delwin Delwin:

(Obama) promoted opening more dialogues in the middle east to further the cause of nuclear non-proliferation and has recently followed through by closing a deal with Iran.

You mean the same Iran that just threatened to nuke Israel sometime in the next 25 years? THAT Iran?

current-events-f59/iran-israel-will-not-exist-in-another-quarter-century-t113697.html

Pretty sure he didn't threaten to nuke Israel, nice try though.

[Delwin]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

So telling Iran if they reduce the size and scope of their nuclear program, the P5+1 will make it easier for them to produce nuclear weapons. Wow, what shrewd negotiating powers there.

And they give out peace prizes for that you say?

How would it make it easier to make nuclear weapons with less centrifuges and 5% of the current uranium stockpile ? Just curious.

[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

Pretty sure he didn't threaten to nuke Israel, nice try though.

Okay, genius, what did the nice Iranian man with beard REALLY mean?

[Delwin]

He said this:

"I'd say (to Israel) that they will not see (the end) of these 25 years,"

It could mean any of a million things.

How you would infer that this means, "we are going to nuke you" is beyond me.

After all, their position in the middle east has them surrounded by countless enemies and their existence is always in peril.

$1:

"If Arabs put down their weapons, there would be no more violence in Israel. If Jews put down their weapons, there would be no more Israel."

Zola Levitt,
The Levitt Letter

[JBG]

martin14 martin14:

what has the UN achieved?

Nothing.
It's a joke.

But it's not even funny.

Maybe the U.N. could apportion the migrants from Syria and IS throughout the world. Butt hat would be dreaming. They'd rather pontificate on the shores of the East River than do anything useful.

[Freakinoldguy]

http://listverse.com/2013/01/28/top-10- ... nations-2/

Vs


http://theflame.unishanoi.org/opinion/2 ... d-nations/



The UN much like the League of Nations before it was a good idea that because of human nature just didn't work out the way it was supposed to. As long as they meddle in politics and let sycophants from 3rd word countries mandate and make rules they're going to continue to be nothing more than a mouth piece for regimes that should be eradicated.

They should strictly bd a humanitarian organization leaving political views, aspirations and opinions outside the doors of 760 United Nations Plaza, Manhattan, New York City.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Delwin Delwin:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

So telling Iran if they reduce the size and scope of their nuclear program, the P5+1 will make it easier for them to produce nuclear weapons. Wow, what shrewd negotiating powers there.

And they give out peace prizes for that you say?

How would it make it easier to make nuclear weapons with less centrifuges and 5% of the current uranium stockpile ? Just curious.

Ummm by removing the embargo on nuclear related materials. Like parts, equipment etc. And of course they'd never get uranium on the QT. No, I'm sure their word is their bond.

[JBG]

As many people know there is a significant upsurge in desperate people fleeing war and oppression in Africa and the war-torn Islamic State region. This is a humanitarian crisis of terrifying proportions, no question. Below, I have excerpted a few OP's on the subject. Clearly, neither Europe nor the U.S. can be expected to take upwards of one billion people from these troubled regions.

On the other hand, no one has the heart to sink leaky refugee boats on the Mediterranean headed from places such as Libya to Italy or Greece. While the police are playing a game of whack-a-mole trying to prevent refugees from fleeing into the Chunnel from Calais, France to England, no one plans to return them to the regions from which they originate. And quite clearly no European country, not even the U.S. has the resources for all of these people. Similarly the U.S. cannot keep Central American immigrants cooped up in camps. Local communities cannot afford to educate children whose parents pay no taxes.

So here's my suggestion. I had been under the impression that the U.N. was set up to deal with world crises. Why not let the U.N. deal with these problems? After all they are a world body. Their creation was for humanitarian purposes. Presumably they would be better at sorting out good places of refuge in countries in which the refugees would be well-adapted and which would be more comfortable with the refugees. For example, petro-potentate countries such as UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Iran are gushing with oil wealth and opportunity. The U.N. could do far better job than European or U.S. officials in making these people productive, safe and happy.

And the U.N. doesn't lack for money either. If they diverted a small percentage of the funds used for studies, consultants and world travel, Western societies filled with unskilled, uneducated guests would be far more hospitable.

[PluggyRug]

Yes this is a good idea, unfortunately if you cast your gaze to the sky a large pie is visible.

[JBG]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Yes this is a good idea, unfortunately if you cast your gaze to the sky a large pie is visible.

I am quite aware. My point is obvious; that this is exactly the kind of problem that the U.N. was established to ameliorate and exactly what they are not functioning on effectively. The U.N. should be abolished or, failing that, Canada, the U.S. and similar countries with accountable governments should withdraw their support.

[PluggyRug]

JBG JBG:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Yes this is a good idea, unfortunately if you cast your gaze to the sky a large pie is visible.

I am quite aware. My point is obvious; that this is exactly the kind of problem that the U.N. was established to ameliorate and exactly what they are not functioning on effectively. The U.N. should be abolished or, failing that, Canada, the U.S. and similar countries with accountable governments should withdraw their support.

The UN has become ineffective probably due to large scale corruption. This situation will not change anytime in the near future.

[JBG]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

JBG JBG:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Yes this is a good idea, unfortunately if you cast your gaze to the sky a large pie is visible.

I am quite aware. My point is obvious; that this is exactly the kind of problem that the U.N. was established to ameliorate and exactly what they are not functioning on effectively. The U.N. should be abolished or, failing that, Canada, the U.S. and similar countries with accountable governments should withdraw their support.

The UN has become ineffective probably due to large scale corruption. This situation will not change anytime in the near future.

Then why should Canada and the U.S. pour money down a rathole?