[redhatmamma]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

A passenger on the train tweeted, "In relative terms this is a minor inconvenience for us, but a desperate, awful situation for those getting on the train tracks."

That, is what is wrong with the European mindset (and too many lefties over here for that matter). It is NOT a desperate, awful situation for the "migrants". They were in safe havens the moment they landed in Greece and Italy. These are just greedy, lazy opportunists who want nothing to do with a job and are simply stampeding north to get a piece of the free ride Britain will likely give them.

Exactly... Read up on what is happening in Calais...

[andyt]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

A passenger on the train tweeted, "In relative terms this is a minor inconvenience for us, but a desperate, awful situation for those getting on the train tracks."

That, is what is wrong with the European mindset (and too many lefties over here for that matter). It is NOT a desperate, awful situation for the "migrants". They were in safe havens the moment they landed in Greece and Italy. These are just greedy, lazy opportunists who want nothing to do with a job and are simply stampeding north to get a piece of the free ride Britain will likely give them.

You expect Greece and Italy to take in all those refugees, while the rest of Europe does nothing? Actually Germany is taking huge numbers, it's Britain that refuses to step up.

But Europe needs to get it's act together, set up processing centers in Greece and Italy, send the ones that aren't refugees back, and fairly distribute the rest in all EU countries.

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

A passenger on the train tweeted, "In relative terms this is a minor inconvenience for us, but a desperate, awful situation for those getting on the train tracks."

That, is what is wrong with the European mindset (and too many lefties over here for that matter). It is NOT a desperate, awful situation for the "migrants". They were in safe havens the moment they landed in Greece and Italy. These are just greedy, lazy opportunists who want nothing to do with a job and are simply stampeding north to get a piece of the free ride Britain will likely give them.

Have you ever been in a situation like that? Leaving your entire life behind, paying everything you have to some scumbag to escape war, cruelty, starvation? Dragging your family through hostile lands where you may be captured and tortured or killed?

That little kid that drowned. He looks maybe 3 or 4. So, just to be clear, you're telling me he's a greedy, lazy opportunist?

You're such a lefty.

[andyt]

pineywoodslim pineywoodslim:

Perhaps if the West quit meddling and stirring things up in a Syrian war, fewer refugees would be fleeing.

The same sort of political amnesia occurs with illegal Mexican immigration to the US.

Nafta allowed heavily subsidized US agricultural products to flood the Mexican market, effectively destroying the Mexican agricultural sector which had been composed of several million small farmers and workers.

So, what happens? They immigrate north.

With the West there's rarely any sense of accountability.

We sure seem to get a lot of Mexican produce here. And, the US agricultural sector can't function without those illegals. The whole idea is to keep the illegal so they'll work for shit wages instead of becoming commies and forming a union.

The way to stop the flood is seriously going after the US employers.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

A passenger on the train tweeted, "In relative terms this is a minor inconvenience for us, but a desperate, awful situation for those getting on the train tracks."

That, is what is wrong with the European mindset (and too many lefties over here for that matter). It is NOT a desperate, awful situation for the "migrants". They were in safe havens the moment they landed in Greece and Italy. These are just greedy, lazy opportunists who want nothing to do with a job and are simply stampeding north to get a piece of the free ride Britain will likely give them.

Have you ever been in a situation like that? Leaving your entire life behind, paying everything you have to some scumbag to escape war, cruelty, starvation? Dragging your family through hostile lands where you may be captured and tortured or killed?

That little kid that drowned. He looks maybe 3 or 4. So, just to be clear, you're telling me he's a greedy, lazy opportunist?

Just to be clear, we're talking about people who despite being safe upon arriving in Italy and Greece, headed north to the CHannel coast, passing through other perfectly acceptable countries and illegally "occupied" a train because they think they have the right to disrupt everybody else's lives in their trek to the land of the free ride.
I never read anything in the article about a little kid drowning while on top of the train.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

andyt andyt:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

A passenger on the train tweeted, "In relative terms this is a minor inconvenience for us, but a desperate, awful situation for those getting on the train tracks."

That, is what is wrong with the European mindset (and too many lefties over here for that matter). It is NOT a desperate, awful situation for the "migrants". They were in safe havens the moment they landed in Greece and Italy. These are just greedy, lazy opportunists who want nothing to do with a job and are simply stampeding north to get a piece of the free ride Britain will likely give them.

You expect Greece and Italy to take in all those refugees, while the rest of Europe does nothing?

Yep, that's exactly what I said.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

karra karra:

Not faulting Zip for having feelings about a kid he doesn't know and never will - faulting him for getting personal.

Most of us are human and no doubt his heart is in the right place - but to suggest, however obliquely, that we should all be crying our good selves to sleep at night is somewhat over the top.

Cheers to that. I think PAN was getting personal, classifying all these people as "greedy, lazy opportunists."

*sigh* Try reading my post again and this time, think about it in the context of this thread title AND what one of the train passengers was quoted as saying on Twitter, that I also quoted.

Think of it this way. You're stuck on a train for 5 hours with no environmental controls. You can't even open a door or window. You need to be somewhere and you're stuck sitting there for hours because some worthless shits who are now safe in Europe, have decided that being safe just isn't good enough, they want a free ride to boot. And if they have to disrupt the lives of hundreds, if not thousands of people as well as a major commerce route, well then that's just too bad for you and everyone else on the train.

Sorry man, their "desperate plight" ended the moment they set foot in Europe and were permitted to remain. I would think the legitimate refugees would be at least a little grateful to be in a safe country and not act like entitled douche nozzles, which leads me to believe that the vast bulk of the attempts to surreptitiously cross the channel are NOT being made by legit refugees.

[xerxes]

Here's a picture of another Syrian migrant child:

[PublicAnimalNo9]

xerxes xerxes:

Here's a picture of another Syrian migrant child:

Good choice. The head of a soulless, soul sucking corporation that still uses paid "slave" labour and illegally sourced materials.

[martin14]

andyt andyt:

You expect Greece and Italy to take in all those refugees, while the rest of Europe does nothing? Actually Germany is taking huge numbers, it's Britain that refuses to step up.

But Europe needs to get it's act together, set up processing centers in Greece and Italy, send the ones that aren't refugees back, and fairly distribute the rest in all EU countries.

If the Euros had any brains, they would have stopped the boats on the Libyan side of the Med.
But they didn't.
The UK had an increase in migration of 300,000, after the PM promised to being migration
to 10% of that value. If he takes any extra refugees, it's political suicide.

Greece and Italy have processing centers, have had for a long time.
EU rules prevent them from realistically sending ANYONE back, and so the problem exacerbates.

If you ever find an article about thousands of these illegals being repatriated, please post it here.
Or hundreds.

Fair distribution ?
Hopefully won't happen; the Central and Baltic countries aren't really interested
in the cultural suicide Germany is offering.

[Thanos]

Steve Jobs was a prime example of the American dream thanks to his adoptive parents, not the Muslim dream. If he'd been raised Muslim he would have just been another jerk who insisted that his wife wear a bag over her head, a tent over her entire body, and to keep her mouth shut at all times. Let those little kids in, but indoctrinate them as atheists at a minimum to keep the scourge of Islam out of their lives when they're adults.

[N_Fiddledog]

In fact, let's have a look at the Steve Jobs story in hopes of possibly figuring out what the point might be here.

It's true. Jobs biological father was Syrian. He was the son of a Syrian millionaire.

Bio-dad was going for his PHD at the University of Wisconsin when he met Job's bio-mother - an American of German catholic descent.

Those 2 hooked up. Baby Steve was born and put up for adoption. He was adopted out to a working class American family.

It ends like this:

$1:

Many years later, Jobs's wife Laurene also noted that, "he felt he had been really blessed by having the two of them as parents."[13] Indeed, Jobs would become upset when Paul and Clara were referred to as "adoptive parents" as they "were my parents 1,000%."[2] With regard to his biological parents, Jobs referred to them as "my sperm and egg bank. That’s not harsh, it’s just the way it was, a sperm bank thing, nothing more.”[2] Jandali has also stated that, "I really am not his dad. Mr. and Mrs. Jobs are, as they raised him. And I don’t want to take their place."[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs

And that apparently somehow legitimizes these guys...



hijacking a chunnel train for hours and putting the lives of actual paying passengers in jeopardy so they might possibly sneak into Britain for this -



Congratulations Xerxes. You win my "Fucked-up-logic" of the month award.

And let me tell you, the competition was tight this time around.

[martin14]

Well that pic of the kid is all over Euro media this morning, no surprise.

It will be used to put more pressure to accept all these illegals without regard to
health, education, work ability, or how much jihadi they are.


Never mind the small point that the kid was murdered by someone in that boat.




Here's hoping Orban will just tell Merkel to fuck right off.


In other news, the train station in Budapest is now open, but trains West have been suspended 'indefinitely'.

[Zipperfish]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

*sigh* Try reading my post again and this time, think about it in the context of this thread title AND what one of the train passengers was quoted as saying on Twitter, that I also quoted.

Think of it this way. You're stuck on a train for 5 hours with no environmental controls. You can't even open a door or window. You need to be somewhere and you're stuck sitting there for hours because some worthless shits who are now safe in Europe, have decided that being safe just isn't good enough, they want a free ride to boot. And if they have to disrupt the lives of hundreds, if not thousands of people as well as a major commerce route, well then that's just too bad for you and everyone else on the train.

Sorry man, their "desperate plight" ended the moment they set foot in Europe and were permitted to remain. I would think the legitimate refugees would be at least a little grateful to be in a safe country and not act like entitled douche nozzles, which leads me to believe that the vast bulk of the attempts to surreptitiously cross the channel are NOT being made by legit refugees.

Point taken. Sorry I misconstrued what you were saying.

[xerxes]

My point was, and I'll admit it was bit obtuse, is that we don't know how these refugees will fare. We casually dismiss the death of a young boy by saying he's a Muslim so he just would have been a terrorist in the end. The same goes for the rest of the refugees.

This is no different when Jews fleeing Europe were denied entry to safe counties because they were Jews. Or when the Irish swarmed to america in their potato boats escaping a famine. In the case of the latter, the prevailing attitude was they were lazy, useless and would be a drain on society. And now, they're an immigration success story.

Will the Syrian and other refugees fare as well in Europe? Who can say? Imo, these are the same ones fleeing a brutal war while the die hards are staying behind to fight for the rubble. But to simply say they're an invasion force because they're Muslim and because Muslims are evil by default, is pure bigotry.