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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:59 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:


A bunch of sites repeating the same meme is not proof of anything.

There's a lot of sites saying that Russia is fighting fascism in Ukraine and it's still a crock o' sh*t.

And where in hell would 5,000 people in this bitty little town camp out, eat, and get supplies? :idea:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:16 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Gunnair Gunnair:


A bunch of sites repeating the same meme is not proof of anything.



What makes your anonymous expert assertions any more reliable than theirs? :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:49 pm
 


Delwin Delwin:
martin14 martin14:

Unpaid taxes isn't reason for helicopters, snipers and now death threats.

Something else is going on.
I know there were a number of lobbyists who were fed up with the federal governments inaction on the issue and who recently set in motion the action to sue the government for their response thus far so this could have something to do with the sudden movement :




Unless that lobbyist is a personal friend of Obongo, I'm thinking that's not it either.

Tortoises aren't enough for BLM to get all coptered up and basically waging an invasion
on this family.

It will be, as usual, follow the money.


Has this land been set aside for something else, something with money at the end ?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:05 am
 


The ranchers figured BLM was taking cattle into the hills to bury them with backhoes, so they tried to get a look into the dump trucks to check out their theory.



Later there was this.



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:39 pm
 


WELL, WELL, WELL: Dingy Harry Reid Behind Feds' Land Grab Attacks on Rancher in Sleazy Payback Deal

http://directorblue.blogspot.ca/2014/04/well-well-well-dingy-harry-reid-behind.html#more

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Reid's head should roll for this but considering who the Federal AG nothing to see here move along.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:08 pm
 


Yeah too bad the secured site for the proposed solar panel project is no where near the ranch. But why let a little geography get in the way of a good conspiracy. There is a project in Nevada that is going to create jobs, we have our scapegoat. :/

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0 ... -drop.html


Company founder Wang Yusuo, one of China’s richest men, has joined with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to win incentives including land 113 miles (182 kilometers) southeast of Las Vegas.



Gold Butte is NE of Las Vegas.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:30 pm
 


No, you misunderstand. I can't speak for Brah, but I offered the example of Harry and son expediting the process in Nevada for the Chinese only to show you that's the way it's done in Nevada.

The specific allegation for Bundy's property involves other characters and other property. Read Dana's article above. She'll explain it better.

There was a notice up on the BLM site regarding Bundy's place and what was planned for it, but BLM pulled it and tried to disappear it down the memory hole. Didn't work.

Free Republic saved it. It's below. Scroll down to "Cattle Trespass Impacts"...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/ ... ts?page=99

There's this under "Examples of Restoration Funding and Viability Impacted".

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Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle.


Here's a link giving a vague idea what BLM means by "offsite mitigation" for those "NGOs" lucky enough to get in on the solar subsidy gravy train.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/ ... ct2012.pdf


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:41 pm
 


I got this from an Infowars piece, but doesn't matter. I believe it's accurate based on other stuff I've read. Feel free to double-check though.

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Another BLM report entitled “Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone” (BLM Technical Note 444) reveals that Bundy’s land in question is within the “Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area” which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for “Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States” on land “managed” by BLM.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:47 pm
 


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04 ... t-remains/


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:51 pm
 


Hooray for the good guys.

We (the righteous) won. :rock:

For now...


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:56 pm
 


Her's another take on the matter.....

http://www.infowars.com/blm-action-in-n ... heres-why/


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:00 pm
 


Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.
And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-ha ... ndy-ranch/


Where's Chuck Norris when you need him.....

Should make a good movie.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:12 pm
 


If it's coming from Alex Jones then it's probably about as legit as when the tin-hats kept on ranting that the war in Afghanistan was all because George W. Bush wanted to pacify the place so Unocal could build a gas pipeline from Russia to the Indian Ocean.

The jerk rancher didn't feel like he had to pay his grazing fees to use federal land for his cattle because to him "federal land" apparently equates to "I can do what I want, anytime I want, and none of you can stop me". This guy's about a million times more similar to Theresa Spence and the rest of the crooks in the Canadian Native leadership who think that the law never applies to them than he is to any sort of American hero. Apparently none of his neighbours had any difficulty obeying the law that this other dispshit does. That it turned into a flashpoint for the rest of the assholes in the so-called "patriot" movement is just unfortunate.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:42 pm
 


It's not that simple though. There are claims there were fees he was paying to Clark County. There were rights he felt he already owned - either he inherited or paid for them. He was paying BLM something for awhile. He claims it was a land management fee, and that's all they had an actual claim for.

He claims the reason he stopped paying the land management fee was because they were managing his land into bankruptcy, and that was their actual endgame - get the land and hand it over so somebody's buddies could make out like bandits on the green subsidy perks.

As to Infowars you're right. They're disreputable, but they're like Gawker, and this is their Rob Ford video story.

The more information comes out from varied sources the more BLM and Harry Reid are getting buried. That's why their backing out for now.


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