[housewife]

QBall didn't you get the obit... Common sense died

[andyt]

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

This is a great example of what is wrong with the MMAR program. They give these people a "licence" to use pot but they don't put any rules or conditions around the use or growing of it. I've looked into this in detail in the past and it's utterly amazing, there isn't one single condition placed on the licence holders who are in the program. There are no rules as to where you can use, no conditions on whether or not you can operate a motor vehicle when medicating, no rules on where you can get your dope and best of all there is no criteria to take a licence away from someone if they are found to be abusing the licence or if they obtained the licence through fraudulent means. Add to that the police wont touch people with these licences if they are found to be breaking laws such as driving while impaired or smoking in the middle of a class room at SAIT.

The whole program needs to be looked at and overhauled so that makes licence holders accountable to someone which they currently are not. Just because you have a MMAR card doesn't mean that you should be able to smoke a joint on a plane, in a school, in a car or have a small grow op in a rental property.

The Conservatives not sending you updates. The program has been drastically altered so that only licensed commercial growers can produce medical pot. Problem is that it will put the pot that's for sale out of the reach of many medical pot users, and court challenges are to be expected. OTOH, it will hasten the coming of legal pot for everybody, since a commercial production system will be in place. The govt will see how much revenue they can get by taxing the stuff, and the growers will pressure the govt to open up the market to everyone.

[QBall]

housewife housewife:

QBall didn't you get the obit... Common sense died

No, it just has to hide in the attic thanks to the white hooded members of the clan called Political Correctness standing outside its door.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Actually, that little piece of paper doesn't restrict them as to where they can grow it, just the amount they can grow.

Correct. However, that piece of paper doesn't give them the right to break rules within the Landlord and Tenant act and violate electrical codes, putting the other residents of the building at a safety risk.

Would you feel comfortable living above or below a place with live wires running randomly through the unit with the walls filled with mold?

You seem to be under the impression that every person who grows pot indoors does so unsafely.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Lots of people grow plants indoors that ain't pot. Is that your suggestion to them as well?

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Very true. Most people that grow plants indoors don't damage the property nor do they put other residents at risk with their actions.

As do most who grow pot legally. It's funny how illegal grow houses have caused people to think that to grow any amount of pot plants indoors requires illegal hydro hookups and causes mold problems.
I've been to people's apartment units where they had so many ferns, it felt like I walked into the Jurassic period. Yet I've never heard anyone suggest they shouldn't be allowed to have them in their unit, or that they should move out to the country.

[commanderkai]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

As do most who grow pot legally. It's funny how illegal grow houses have caused people to think that to grow any amount of pot plants indoors requires illegal hydro hookups and causes mold problems.
I've been to people's apartment units where they had so many ferns, it felt like I walked into the Jurassic period. Yet I've never heard anyone suggest they shouldn't be allowed to have them in their unit, or that they should move out to the country.

This story focuses way too much on the fact that this was a grow-op, when really, they were shitty tenants who put everyone at risk to grow a few pot plants. The worst part is that, although they were licensed to grow pot, they obviously did not do so legally, but rather put other lives at risk, and severely damaged somebody else's property to grow their plants.

They could have grown these pot plants safely, but decided not to. They should be punished for that.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

pot is NOT a narcotic. Aspirin has been/is used to treat/mask/alleviate pain. Is aspirin a narcotic? What about Toradol?

I think Merriam Webster and the Oxford dictionary would disagree...... and every other dictionary, medical and pharmacological publication for that matter.

$1:

1nar·cot·ic noun \när-ˈkä-tik\
: a drug (such as cocaine, heroin, or marijuana) that affects the brain and that is usually dangerous and illegal

medical : a drug that is given to people in small amounts to make them sleep or feel less pain

Full Definition of NARCOTIC

1
a : a drug (as opium or morphine) that in moderate doses dulls the senses, relieves pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor, coma, or convulsions
b : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restriction similar to that of addictive narcotics whether physiologically addictive and narcotic or not
2
: something that soothes, relieves, or lulls

Reminds me of those who claim smoking tobacco is not an addiction, just a bad habit. Pot, opiates, and coke are all narcotics

"Narcotic" comes from the Greek word "narkos" which means "SLEEP". Narcotics aren't just painkillers but tend to make one sleepy. IN that respect, neither coke nor meth are narcotics either.

[OnTheIce]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

You seem to be under the impression that every person who grows pot indoors does so unsafely.

No, that's the impression you have of me.

I've only ever spoken about this individual case and have made no generalizations.

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I've been to people's apartment units where they had so many ferns, it felt like I walked into the Jurassic period. Yet I've never heard anyone suggest they shouldn't be allowed to have them in their unit, or that they should move out to the country.

Nobody is suggesting that people can't grow plants. No need to get so defensive.

The issue here is the damage done to the unit in order to do so. I doubt those apartments you went too had holes all over the place, illegal electrical systems and mold.

Have all the plants you want, but go about it responsibly and within the law. It's not much to ask.