[BartSimpson]

Who cares? Someone page me when Justin Bieber runs for Parliament.

[Gunnair]

Unsound Unsound:

It's kind of a scary idea for the rest of us. If Trudeau wins the leadership, and then leads the liberals back to power purely on the strength of his name in Quebec... well the rest of us are in for a rough ride. I'd expect to see western seperatism as the next major threat to national unity, in those circumstances.

I doubt it.

The west is no more a unified voice than anyone else. Right now Alberta and BC are squabbling and Sas and Man know which side their bread is buttered.

Talk of western separation is the stuff of drama queens. (not referring to you here)

[ShepherdsDog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

sandorski sandorski:

He adds some pizzazz to the race, but not much more. Rumour has it that the Libs are trying to get Mark Carney to run, that would make an excellent choice IMO.

A much better choice than the Pierre's spawn. Little Justine strikes me as all flash and no substance and would probably continue the mess his father started. The Trudeau name is very polarizing and would further drive Canadians apart.

+1 on that. If Mr. Carney or Sheila Fraiser (former Auditor General) ran, I'd vote for them.

Why would carney run for the Liberal Party? becoming PM of Canada would be taking a step back for him, as where he is now and where it looks like he is heading, gives him the opportunity to initiate real and serious change on the global economy.

[Unsound]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Unsound Unsound:

It's kind of a scary idea for the rest of us. If Trudeau wins the leadership, and then leads the liberals back to power purely on the strength of his name in Quebec... well the rest of us are in for a rough ride. I'd expect to see western seperatism as the next major threat to national unity, in those circumstances.

I doubt it.

The west is no more a unified voice than anyone else. Right now Alberta and BC are squabbling and Sas and Man know which side their bread is buttered.

Talk of western separation is the stuff of drama queens. (not referring to you here)

The thing is Alberta and BC are squabbling over who gets what peice of the oil pie. A Trudeau trying to please Quebec could very well just throw the whole pie out the window. BC would learn a few lessons about bread and butter pretty quick in that event.

Imo western seperation is very a based on the whole "red-line" idea we've being hearing about wrt the middle east. We'll put up with a lot, although there will always be grumbling at some level or another, but I truly believe if the federal government ever destroys our economy again like it did under Trudeau the west really will want out.

Alberta is where it will start, of course, but I don't see BC, Sask, and maybe manitoba being far behind. BC for geography if nothing else, and sask because they know that any voice or power they might have in confederation now will be muted even more if they remain in confederation.

[ShepherdsDog]

Another one with a connection to the Trudeau name is shooting for the Liberal leadership. Deborah Coyne, the mother of Pierre's bastard, is also a contender. It seems if you had a little Pierre in you, it qualifies you to run for leadership of the LPC

[herbie]

Alberta and BC aren't squabbling.
The desperate bitch who's temporarily Premier is trying to make a squabble. Do you think the people in BC give a damn about Alberta's royalties or would threaten to cut off electricity? FFS Christy's so out of touch with the people it's absurd.
E-N-V-I-R-O-N-M-E-T-A-L C-O-N-C-E-R-N-S
She can't say it, can't admit it, can't spell it, can't even think it.
And J-O-B-S
Not shovels full of money straight to Victoria for whatever gov't to piss away.

[EyeBrock]

I watched Justin do his acceptance speech last night. He’s not really a powerful speaker.

He’s pretty enough I suppose but as soon as he opens his mouth, you can see he’s not the full package. The more exposure he gets, the more people will realise it.

He’s just going to split the left vote. And a few more years in the wilderness for the Libs.

[Gunnair]

Unsound Unsound:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Unsound Unsound:

It's kind of a scary idea for the rest of us. If Trudeau wins the leadership, and then leads the liberals back to power purely on the strength of his name in Quebec... well the rest of us are in for a rough ride. I'd expect to see western seperatism as the next major threat to national unity, in those circumstances.

I doubt it.

The west is no more a unified voice than anyone else. Right now Alberta and BC are squabbling and Sas and Man know which side their bread is buttered.

Talk of western separation is the stuff of drama queens. (not referring to you here)

The thing is Alberta and BC are squabbling over who gets what peice of the oil pie. A Trudeau trying to please Quebec could very well just throw the whole pie out the window. BC would learn a few lessons about bread and butter pretty quick in that event.

Imo western seperation is very a based on the whole "red-line" idea we've being hearing about wrt the middle east. We'll put up with a lot, although there will always be grumbling at some level or another, but I truly believe if the federal government ever destroys our economy again like it did under Trudeau the west really will want out.

Alberta is where it will start, of course, but I don't see BC, Sask, and maybe manitoba being far behind. BC for geography if nothing else, and sask because they know that any voice or power they might have in confederation now will be muted even more if they remain in confederation.

Won't that be rich when the west, after years of doggedly pointing out the whining separatists of Quebec, suddenly spools up their own form of whiny separatism.

It may happen, but I really doubt it. Irrespective of what Trudeau says, he and his party will realize that much of Canada's economic power will reside in the west even when the voting base resides in the east.

[OnTheIce]

Unsound Unsound:

It's kind of a scary idea for the rest of us. If Trudeau wins the leadership, and then leads the liberals back to power purely on the strength of his name in Quebec... well the rest of us are in for a rough ride. I'd expect to see western seperatism as the next major threat to national unity, in those circumstances.

The only thing I find scary is this "I'm Special" attitude from the Provinces that want to whine and pout and take their ball and go home.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I watched Justin do his acceptance speech last night. He’s not really a powerful speaker.

He’s pretty enough I suppose but as soon as he opens his mouth, you can see he’s not the full package. The more exposure he gets, the more people will realise it.

He’s just going to split the left vote. And a few more years in the wilderness for the Libs.

Not so sure about that. If he ups his game over the next few months and the Liberals actually put a decent policy platform together then I think they stand a good chance.

I'm rather surprised in all of the typical tut-tutting that goes on here when Trudeau's name or the Liberal Party of Canada is said that reality is being ignored. Harper is not popular nor is he a particularly strong PM (he appears so in light of the weak opposition) Mulchair is crazy and potentially dangerous. Trudeau with a decent platform will be a Godsend to middle of the road Canadians tired of Harper and the secretive CPC and leery of Mulchair and his radical left.

[Strutz]

Gunnair Gunnair:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I watched Justin do his acceptance speech last night. He’s not really a powerful speaker.

He’s pretty enough I suppose but as soon as he opens his mouth, you can see he’s not the full package. The more exposure he gets, the more people will realise it.

He’s just going to split the left vote. And a few more years in the wilderness for the Libs.

Not so sure about that. If he ups his game over the next few months and the Liberals actually put a decent policy platform together then I think they stand a good chance.

I'm rather surprised in all of the typical tut-tutting that goes on here when Trudeau's name or the Liberal Party of Canada is said that reality is being ignored. Harper is not popular nor is he a particularly strong PM (he appears so in light of the weak opposition) Mulchair is crazy and potentially dangerous. Trudeau with a decent platform will be a Godsend to middle of the road Canadians tired of Harper and the secretive CPC and leery of Mulchair and his radical left.

Very true. This could get interesting...

However, Justin is not the official leader YET, though it's certainly sounding like everyone is already acknowledging him that way before the Libs even vote on it next April.

[Unsound]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Unsound Unsound:

It's kind of a scary idea for the rest of us. If Trudeau wins the leadership, and then leads the liberals back to power purely on the strength of his name in Quebec... well the rest of us are in for a rough ride. I'd expect to see western seperatism as the next major threat to national unity, in those circumstances.

The only thing I find scary is this "I'm Special" attitude from the Provinces that want to whine and pout and take their ball and go home.

I wouldn't call it an "I'm special" attitude. No one is asking for special rights or status out here. We just want to be left alone to do our business.
We've learned our lesson about the relative importance of feeding our children vs the importance of keeping gas prices low in toronto and letting Quebecers feel smug about being "green". I think easterners have trouble understanding the scars left from what Trudeau did.

[Curtman]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

I watched Justin do his acceptance speech last night. He’s not really a powerful speaker.

He’s pretty enough I suppose but as soon as he opens his mouth, you can see he’s not the full package. The more exposure he gets, the more people will realise it.

He’s just going to split the left vote. And a few more years in the wilderness for the Libs.

We shall see........

Trudeau endorses future coalition with NDP

$1:

In a speech to students, Liberal MP Justin Trudeau says if their 2015 election prospects look dim, the NDP and Liberals should merge.

[OnTheIce]

Unsound Unsound:

I wouldn't call it an "I'm special" attitude. No one is asking for special rights or status out here. We just want to be left alone to do our business.

We've learned our lesson about the relative importance of feeding our children vs the importance of keeping gas prices low in toronto and letting Quebecers feel smug about being "green". I think easterners have trouble understanding the scars left from what Trudeau did.

You're not alone, that's the problem. You're within Canada.

[saturn_656]

Unsound Unsound:

I wouldn't call it an "I'm special" attitude. No one is asking for special rights or status out here. We just want to be left alone to do our business.
We've learned our lesson about the relative importance of feeding our children vs the importance of keeping gas prices low in toronto and letting Quebecers feel smug about being "green". I think easterners have trouble understanding the scars left from what Trudeau did.

The culprits reside in the Windsor-Quebec City corridor.

They are the self proclaimed "Centre of Canada". To them, the rest of us lie on the "periphery", and don't count.