[N_Fiddledog]

The one flotilla boat that went in looking for trouble was funded by an organization called the IHH.

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In 2006, a report issued by the Danish Institute for International Studies stated that during the 1990s the IHH maintained links with al-Qaida and a number of "global jihad networks." The report also said that the Turkish government launched an investigation into the IHH starting December 1997 after receiving intelligence that the IHH had bought automatic weapons from Islamist terrorists.

The report said that following the revelation, the Turkish government launched a raid on the organization’s Istanbul offices, where they found weapons, explosives, and instructions for bomb-making. The report added that an examination of documents found at the IHH office indicated that the group was planning to take part in terrorist activities in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and Bosnia.

According to the study, a French intelligence report found that in the mid-1990s IHH leader B’ulent Yildirim recruited soldiers for jihad activities in a number of Muslim countries and that the IHH transferred money, firearms, and explosives to jihadists in said countries.


Izzet Sahnin, an employee of the IHH was arrested by the security services outside Bethlehem in April for what the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) said was suspicion that he “was working for an extended period of time in Judea and Samaria for the Turkish organization IHH, which Israel declared illegal in 2008.”

The Shin Bet added that they suspected Sahnin’s activities “endangered West Bank security”.

Following the arrest, the IHH posted a press statement on its Web site that said “Izzet Sahin, who has been living in West Bank since the 28th of November, 2009 [and is] a student of [the] Hebrew University, was taken into custody in an illegal manner on the 27th of April, 2010. First court hearing of Izzet Sahin was held last week... Officials from IHH demand [that the] Turkish government interfere to ensure Sahin’s release.”

The Turkish government has denied assisting the IHH in its planning or funding of the Gaza flotilla.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=177167

Also...

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France’s former top anti-terrorism judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere stated that IHH was connected to the “millennium plot” to bomb the Los Angeles airport in late 1999. And it has been stated in recent media reports that major international Islamic charities such as IHH, while providing genuine humanitarian relief, are “charitable front groups that provide support to Al-Qaida.”

Also...

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The imam behind a proposed mosque near Ground Zero is a prominent member of a group that helped sponsor the pro-Palestinian activists who clashed violently with Israeli commandos at sea this week.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/internatio ... &FEEDNAME=

Here's what Palestinian kids watch on the wide-screen TVs (pic posted on a previous page) funded by the west, that keeps their welfare state thriving.

[Bodah]

desertdude desertdude:

So y'all beileve in collective punishment and hijacking ships in international waters

It wasn't hijacked, all it had to do is divert for inspection. They didn't, they wanted a violent confrontation.

In this case the ship was heading for a bloackade which allows for a ship to be boarded in international waters. Go ahead look it up . J.Kennedy was allowed to do it with Cuba on many occasions and never called a pirate by the world.

If there was no blockade that's a different story but their was.

[desertdude]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Not convinced desertdude. You are all over Israel but nary an adverse comment on Hamas and all the other Muslim facists that surround Israel.

You still have not said where you are from.

Au contraire my friend I think hamas is a POS for making their people suffer even if the blockade was legal they were completely innocent they should still step down/surremder to relieve the suffering of the people they are suppose to represent. Infact all Palestenians politicians should be tied in a potato back and thrown into the desert.

I farking could believe it when they started fighting each other. HELLO ! I think you have bigger problems to tend to. But again like all politcians everywhere all they care for is the seat and power.

Egypt is another arsehole for suppourting this blockade and there reason for doing so is about million times higher on the dumb ass scale than the Israelis.

All this wasn't mentioned because that was the subject of this thread. The flotila hijacking was.

And fiddle dog. I'm not going to repeat myself please go reread previous post on why this was a hijacking you would have a point if the flotilla was in Israeli territorial waters not international. All Israel had to do was wait until it reached it. And like I said. Lets see proof from your side and JFK did it so it must be ok is not a valid or legal argument.

Cheers

[EyeBrock]

Still no answer to "Where are you from."

[N_Fiddledog]

desertdude desertdude:

And fiddle dog. I'm not going to repeat myself

Of course, you are. It's all you do. It's all you have. A rhetorical claim of hijacking. You were given fact after supported, and linked fact showing that is incorrect. You merely repeated your rhetoric. That's what trolls do. You were given multiple opportunities to produce something other than "insane troll logic". You failed. I don't debate trolls. Any back and forth between me and you has ended with this post (well, and your inevitable snarky troll reply, of course).

[HyperionTheEvil]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

desertdude desertdude:

And fiddle dog. I'm not going to repeat myself

Of course, you are. It's all you do. It's all you have. A rhetorical claim of hijacking. You were given fact after supported, and linked fact showing that is incorrect. You merely repeated your rhetoric. That's what trolls do. You were given multiple opportunities to produce something other than "insane troll logic". You failed. I don't debate trolls. Any back and forth between me and you has ended with this post (well, and your inevitable snarky troll reply, of course).

You're incredibly tedious

When it's come to trolling you're the kettle referring to the teapot as somewhat black. You've been posting inflammatory crap all over the place that all but concludes that not only all Palestinians are terrorists, but all people who might support the cause of them having their own country without Israel breathing down their neck are terrorists too. And that if anyone challenges Israel , criticizes Israel or just doesn't give a shit about Israel they're not only terrorists but anti-semetic as well. In fact it seems that only good Palestinians are the one who exactly what israel tells them to do


Spare us the Bush era hyperbole about a "War on Terror" and "If you're not with us you're against us". It's gotten so old that even the Americans don't buy it anymore. the majority of them want out of Iraq and Afghanistan, just like Canadians do

The absolute less we have to do with Israel the better, i have no wish whatsoever to be hauled into that pygmy states self-created problems. It's the Americans ball and chain let them get the blow back from it all.Israel brings nothing but problems to nations, uses Canadian passports illegally to spy on other nations and for intelligence operation to kill people.

Screw em.

We don't need Israel and their sanctimonious attitude turning the reputation of Canada from that of a independent power to that of a hanger on for a failed US policy

[Wada]

Eyebrock with just a wee bit of imagination you can find out where Desertdude is from. Lots of folks on here don't say where their from and I've never seen you hound anyone else about where they are from. What's up?

[Proculation]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

desertdude desertdude:

And fiddle dog. I'm not going to repeat myself

Of course, you are. It's all you do. It's all you have. A rhetorical claim of hijacking. You were given fact after supported, and linked fact showing that is incorrect. You merely repeated your rhetoric. That's what trolls do. You were given multiple opportunities to produce something other than "insane troll logic". You failed. I don't debate trolls. Any back and forth between me and you has ended with this post (well, and your inevitable snarky troll reply, of course).

You're incredibly tedious

When it's come to trolling you're the kettle referring to the teapot as somewhat black. You've been posting inflammatory crap all over the place that all but concludes that not only all Palestinians are terrorists, but all people who might support the cause of them having their own country without Israel breathing down their neck are terrorists too. And that if anyone challenges Israel , criticizes Israel or just doesn't give a shit about Israel they're not only terrorists but anti-semetic as well. In fact it seems that only good Palestinians are the one who exactly what israel tells them to do


Spare us the Bush era hyperbole about a "War on Terror" and "If you're not with us you're against us". It's gotten so old that even the Americans don't buy it anymore. the majority of them want out of Iraq and Afghanistan, just like Canadians do

The absolute less we have to do with Israel the better, i have no wish whatsoever to be hauled into that pygmy states self-created problems. It's the Americans ball and chain let them get the blow back from it all.Israel brings nothing but problems to nations, uses Canadian passports illegally to spy on other nations and for intelligence operation to kill people.

Screw em.

We don't need Israel and their sanctimonious attitude turning the reputation of Canada from that of a independent power to that of a hanger on for a failed US policy

Sure ... we saw in history how isolationism was SO good

[ShepherdsDog]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Still no answer to "Where are you from."

In his intro he stated that he grew up and is was in the UAE, but is of Pakistani nationality.

[EyeBrock]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Still no answer to "Where are you from."

In his intro he stated that he grew up and is was in the UAE, but is of Pakistani nationality.

Which means he's from a country that viilfies Israel. I think that is relevant in a thread about Israel. Him not answering says it all.

[Wada]

I thought that's what you were up to.

[Public_Domain]

[HyperionTheEvil]

Proculation Proculation:

Sure ... we saw in history how isolationism was SO good

Where did i say that we should become isolationist?

Ah, i see you were putting words in my mouth.

Canada has not and should not be isolationist again we shall leave that to the Americans. We can only help those countries who really do want to be helped find a path to peace and Israel doesn't want peace, or at least peace only on it's terms. Israel offers nothing to Canada except headaches and grief.

And why would we want to, we have virtually no trade with them, they're belligerent, manipulative and generally hostile to anyone who criticizes them in any shape or manner. They're a religiously contaminated state who bases their claims on that area of the world because, well because god told them so.

They can blow it out their asses.

When they start acting like a mature responsible state and less like a gun happy teen-ager then we can start discussions. Until they Canada should give them a wide berth

[EyeBrock]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

I really hate this thread, it's ridiculous.

EyeBrock, I'd figure you'd be politically sane enough not to say such ridiculous things.
Conspiracy theories and witch hunts.

It's hardly a witch hunt Mr C.

[desertdude]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Still no answer to "Where are you from."

In his intro he stated that he grew up and is was in the UAE, but is of Pakistani nationality.

Which means he's from a country that viilfies Israel. I think that is relevant in a thread about Israel. Him not answering says it all.

Sorry bud, but I was a little busy with something, it called a real life ! Try it. more fun than tyring to win an virtual forum argument siiting in your grans basement