The ex-boyfriend of one of the women accusing Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct has suggested to the Senate Judiciary Committee that she may have perjured herself on several issues during her testimony.
Christine Blasey Ford testified Thursday to Congress about her allegation that the Supreme Court nominee sexually assaulted her at a party in the early 1980s when they were both minors in high school. Kavanaugh trapped her in a room, pinned her to a bed, and covered her mouth while trying to remove her clothing, Ford said, an incident that has caused her lasting trauma.
During her testimony, Ford stated under oath that she has never coached anyone on taking a lie detector test.
“Never,” she answered when asked whether she had offered advice to any individual planning to submit to a polygraph examination.
On Monday, the Senate Judiciary Committee said they had received a sworn statement from a man claiming to be Ford’s former boyfriend, whose name is redacted from his letter, saying he personally witnessed Ford coaching a friend for a polygraph test.
N_Fiddledog
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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Trump opened fire on one of the Democrats attacking Kavanaugh and it is SAVAGE!!!
This is weird. I can't connect to any of the videos on that page.
I have all my script blockers shut off for that site, I subscribe to bitchute and I can see the videos on other bitchute pages. What's happening? Can you still see the video? Was Conservative Tribune removed. That's not supposed to happen on Bitchute. That's why I go there.
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I have not watched one iota of her testimony.
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llama66 llama66:
I have not watched one iota of her testimony.
Wanna have some fun? Try this one. A body language expert goes through Ford's testimony frame by frame.
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MSNBC's (liberal-left) news anchors Joe Scarborough and Mika Brezhinski are the first of the liberal mainstream media to stand up and call bullshit on Kavanaugh's accuser:
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JOE SCARBOROUGH: Quite a few people that we talked to, who I think a lot of them were registered Democrats, raised questions about Dr. Ford's story. Now, that's something in 24/7 news coverage, at least in mainstream media, you never hear anyone talk about. They won't talk about it. They feel that if anybody sticks their neck out and says that they disbelieve any part of her story, or if they talk about how there are no corroborating witnesses, well, they'll get absolutely slammed.
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The media coverage of this has been so one-sided, it has been so biased, there has been the presumption from the very beginning that every single allegation made against the judge was true.
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This is what happened during the run-up to the Trump election. Nobody would even consider the possibility that Donald Trump might win. And so they were shocked by it. Nobody has dared say--even the Republicans--that part of Dr. Ford's story might just not add up. So you have a complete absence, in the mainstream media, you have conservatives saying to each: wait a second, there's no this, there's no that, but wait. And then Donald Trump goes and he says it. And it's like lighting a keg on fire.
And I will say, not just because Donald Trump divides every day in a way that is unbecoming of a President, but because the media has also given Donald Trump a massive opening, because they've been so one-sided on this story --
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Yes. I totally agree --
SCARBOROUGH: -- that it allows him to light dynamite and blow the whole thing up.
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It is one-sided. I have turned on all networks at all times and Brett Kavanaugh has been accused of being a serial rapist. A serial rapist by columnists in national newspapers calling him a serial rapist . . .
You want to understand why Republicans in trouble are doing better in polls right now, and Donald Trump is playing into that hatred? It's because the media has dropped the ball on this from the very beginning and they've been biased. They've been one-sided. And they're once again, just like with Trump being elected, going be shocked by what they see in the polls.
MIKA: It's a good parallel.
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
llama66 llama66:
I have not watched one iota of her testimony.
Wanna have some fun? Try this one. A body language expert goes through Ford's testimony frame by frame.
Ok, I'll have to look at that gem after the game tonight.
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Note, the person who made that video has zero credentials or anything relating to credibility. It's from a random blog on the internet. So take it with a giant salt lick.
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Tricks Tricks:
Note, the person who made that video has zero credentials or anything relating to credibility. It's from a random blog on the internet. So take it with a giant salt lick.
And that's why the video and the homesite call it opinion and I say it's for fun.
But I tell you what, if you'd like to have a serious discussion about credibility let's discuss the actual testimony.
It comes down to presumption of innocence. If we assume innocence until proven guilty there is no evidence. Alleged Witnesses say they don't know what the woman is talking about.
There are multiple contradictions in her testimony - some, one might even call them lies. She doesn't know where this allegedly happened. She doesn't know where.
If simple allegations are considered credible on their presence alone then her credibility is called into question by an ex-lover. Also, two other men suggest she most likely was confusing one of them with Kavanaugh.
Dodgy behaviour from those behind these allegation (the Dems and her lawyer) suggest the possibility of alternative political motive to these allegations of this 35 year old repressed memory, recently released.
There is no credibility to these allegations, but if you don't want to have a few giggles watching a body language video, don't.
Sen. Jeff Flake, a Republican from Arizona, said ridiculing "something this sensitive at a political rally is just not right."
"I wish he hadn't done it. It's kind of appalling."
Separately, Sen. Susan Collins, a Republican from Maine, told reporters "the president's comments were just plain wrong" and Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska said they were "wholly inappropriate and in my view unacceptable."
Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a tweet that people can "decide who to believe" but everyone should stop the "personal attacks" against Ford, Kavanaugh and their families.
Still some adults involved in running the show down there.
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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
And while we get completely wrapped around the axles thinking that accusations make a person guilty especially if they don't agree with our political views I'd like to point out that this article which, was written, implemented and signed off on by countries like Canada and the US to protect people from the witch hunts we're now witnessing.
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Article 11.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
The rule of law in numerous countries has now been subverted to the point where accusations equal guilt and people are having their lives ruined with no chance of recourse because of it. But what's really amazing is that politicians, political parties and their followers are actively condoning the abuse of this Charter article and their own laws in order to attack their opposition.
It's disgusting when you think about it. Accusations of a sexual nature should be dealt with in the same manner as any other criminal investigation and not made tabloid news. In no way shape or form should a public forum be used to assess guilt or innocence and if the accusations are found baseless or lies the accuser should be held to account through the same system they tried to use to advantage.
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raydan raydan:
POLICE: So Raydan, what were you doing the night of the murder 20 years ago. Raydan: Wait a minute, I'll go check my detailed records.... Raydan: Nothing officer. POLICE: Good enough for me.
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I’m reminded of the words of Martin Luther King, “we begin to die the day we are silent on the things that matter”. As a child I was sexually assaulted by my Adoptive Brother, I came forward right away and he was charged (although he got nothing, my Adopted Mum was a member of Toronto high society, she actually disowned me and dumped me in CAS care for reporting it) but despite losing a “good” life, I regret nothing. Maybe more people need to think of themselves and come forward when they are abused/raped. People need to stop waiting to report this at a time when it beneficial for them, it’s a crime... FUCKING REPORT IT or forever hold your piece. I get I’m not normal because I don’t see myself as a “victim”, I see myself as a survivor. Where I’m going is Ms. Ford should have come forward in 1982, just like all these #metoo people (who I have so much contempt for). The time has come for common sense to prevail, how can you be silent and allow a potential monster victimize others? I dunno. We’re not going in the right direction.
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