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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:20 am
 


lily lily:
How would even one concealed pistol have prevented this?

The fact is... without a single weapon, gun, knife, etc., there was only one victim, who arguably never had a chance. Everyone got off the bus safely, and the guy was held till police arrived. The situation never escalated beyond control.


That's pretty good.

Yes but if even one passenger had a gun then there'd be no victim. :)
And please don't get into the gun control thing,I don't believe in it and there's no one on this site convincing enough to change my mind in this matter.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:24 am
 


lily lily:
I don't plan to even try.

I would, however, like you to answer the question.


How would even one concealed pistol have prevented this?

The same as it works in American states where they have unrestrictive gun laws,no one is stupid enough to pull out a gun or any weapon knowing that five guns could be pointed at him within microseconds.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:28 am
 


lily lily:
Let's try this one more time.


How would even one concealed pistol have prevented this?

I thought I was perfectly clear,if he pulls out a weapon theres several people who have one to pull out on him,sorry,this is as clear as I can make myself.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:39 am
 


snuggles61 snuggles61:
lily lily:
How would even one concealed pistol have prevented this?

The fact is... without a single weapon, gun, knife, etc., there was only one victim, who arguably never had a chance. Everyone got off the bus safely, and the guy was held till police arrived. The situation never escalated beyond control.


That's pretty good.

Yes but if even one passenger had a gun then there'd be no victim. :)
And please don't get into the gun control thing,I don't believe in it and there's no one on this site convincing enough to change my mind in this matter.


Bull shit!! In order for the attacker to have been neutralized and the victim's death prevented, the person in possession of the handgun would have had to have been right there with their weapon drawn, pointing it at the attacker. The attacker gave absolutely no warning that the attack was coming and before anyone, including the people sitting inches away from the victim, knew what was happening the guy was beyond help. We don't need to further the seige mentality any further, by having every Tom, Dick and Dirty Harriet packing heat. This would be a set up for only more tragedy. I'll say it again, this could only act as a deterrent for a 'rational' individual contemplating a criminal act, not this nutball.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:30 am
 


Once again folks, there's no way to protect yourself against random horrible shit dropping in your lap. No amount of legislation, defence or people holding hands in a field singing "I'd like to teach the world to sing" is going to prevent randomness.

Anybody on that bus having a gun is going to what? Instantly leap up at the end of the first stab and successfully blast the crazed guy while NOT hitting the rest of the panicked passengers scrambling off the bus? Life isn't Hollywood, and the fantasy that as the crazed guy slowly leans forward with his Rambo knife, a brave citizen's gun is going to be put up against his temple with said brave citizen saying "Not on my trip bucko" is never going to happen.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:39 am
 


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WTF about the victim? Someone explain why a obvious fucking psycho was out and about in public?


If you're not going to read or at least watch the video, then shut up. He was not obvious until his victim was screaming bloody murder. The police haven't even identified the killer or the victim yet.

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Cuz we're too politically correct to warehouse them and too fucking cheap to keep tabs when we don't?
I'm getting a little tired of having to buy bars for my shop windows and stepping around people jabbering at the moon and pissing themselves walking down the street...


Give it up and go home then. People are people, and they can't all be dealt with.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:43 am
 


snuggles61 snuggles61:
Sorry to disagree but if there's one thing I honestly believe that's if every decent law-abiding citizen that passed all psychological evaluations were able to carry concealed pistols on them this would've never happened, in addition to bringing the crime rate down in droves.


Holy fuck, how many are there like you? Do they churn you out of a factory like clones? How many times does it have to be repeated:

NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE BECAUSE IT WAS NIGHT AND EVERYONE WAS ASLEEP. NO MAGICAL INVINCIBLE GUNS WILL HAVE EVER PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING. EVER. NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. SO JUST GET OVER IT.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:48 am
 


There is no liberal or conservative or any stupid political bullshit about this. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep!

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The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep!!!

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The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

Is it clear now?

No guns would have saved anyone here. Get over it. Your stupid macho Hollywood bullshit is FAIL. So just shut up.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:22 am
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
snuggles61 snuggles61:
lily lily:
How would even one concealed pistol have prevented this?

The fact is... without a single weapon, gun, knife, etc., there was only one victim, who arguably never had a chance. Everyone got off the bus safely, and the guy was held till police arrived. The situation never escalated beyond control.


That's pretty good.

Yes but if even one passenger had a gun then there'd be no victim. :)
And please don't get into the gun control thing,I don't believe in it and there's no one on this site convincing enough to change my mind in this matter.


Bull shit!! In order for the attacker to have been neutralized and the victim's death prevented, the person in possession of the handgun would have had to have been right there with their weapon drawn, pointing it at the attacker. The attacker gave absolutely no warning that the attack was coming and before anyone, including the people sitting inches away from the victim, knew what was happening the guy was beyond help. We don't need to further the seige mentality any further, by having every Tom, Dick and Dirty Harriet packing heat. This would be a set up for only more tragedy. I'll say it again, this could only act as a deterrent for a 'rational' individual contemplating a criminal act, not this nutball.

Sorry dude,I guess Bart's anti-gun control posts are just too convincing. :)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:50 am
 


romanP romanP:
There is no liberal or conservative or any stupid political bullshit about this. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep!

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep? The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep..... The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep!!!

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep. The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

The guy was dead before anyone knew what was going on because everyone was asleep.

Is it clear now?

No guns would have saved anyone here. Get over it. Your stupid macho Hollywood bullshit is FAIL. So just shut up.


Damn. I repped you too early, bcause I would love to Image this.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:07 am
 


ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
you have a university residence near you?

Hey, shut up!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:10 am
 


A gun wouldn't have saved anyone, but it would have erased this prick from the earth. So a big + to that.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:36 am
 


Tricks Tricks:
A gun wouldn't have saved anyone, but it would have erased this prick from the earth. So a big + to that.
It's a bus, though - people sitting less than a foot away from the person beside them. I wouldn't be upset if he was shot, but I would be if someone decided that "erasing" this guy was worth the risk to all the other passengers.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:41 am
 


Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
Tricks Tricks:
A gun wouldn't have saved anyone, but it would have erased this prick from the earth. So a big + to that.
It's a bus, though - people sitting less than a foot away from the person beside them. I wouldn't be upset if he was shot, but I would be if someone decided that "erasing" this guy was worth the risk to all the other passengers.

It would be hard to miss from point blank range...


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