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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:07 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: The over 50 crowd  were smoking dope long before you and your generation were even a gleam in your fathers eye. Not like today they weren't. When I was teenager in the early 80s, pot was still pretty taboo. The attitude toward pot has changed since I was a teenager. I don't know where you went to school but the 77-81 time frame that I was in high school it was easier to count those who didn't smoke versus those who did. As a conservative I think decriminalizing might be more palatable than full legalization. But I would personally have no issues with full legalization and regulation on the same level as alcohol.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:23 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo: I don't know where you went to school but the 77-81 time frame that I was in high school it was easier to count those who didn't smoke versus those who did. Fenelon Falls, ON ('82-'87). Sure, kids smoked pot at my school. But the attitude was different. Smoking pot was perceived as much more 'dangerous behaviour' than drinking. There was a line between booze and pot back then that I don't think exists today. If a kid got caught drinking, big deal, but you sure as hell didn't want your parents to know you were 'taking drugs'. Perception has changed. 2Cdo 2Cdo: As a conservative I think decriminalizing might be more palatable than full legalization. But I would personally have no issues with full legalization and regulation on the same level as alcohol. My view is that it should be legal to grow and possess, but illegal to traffic.
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:35 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: 2Cdo 2Cdo: I don't know where you went to school but the 77-81 time frame that I was in high school it was easier to count those who didn't smoke versus those who did. Fenelon Falls, ON ('82-'87). Sure, kids smoked pot at my school. But the attitude was different. Smoking pot was perceived as much more 'dangerous behaviour' than drinking. There was a line between booze and pot back then that I don't think exists today. If a kid got caught drinking, big deal, but you sure as hell didn't want your parents to know you were 'taking drugs'. Perception has changed. My youngest son graduated high school 2 years ago and pot use was more a fringe thing whereas drinking was fairly commonplace. $1: 2Cdo 2Cdo: As a conservative I think decriminalizing might be more palatable than full legalization. But I would personally have no issues with full legalization and regulation on the same level as alcohol. My view is that it should be legal to grow and possess, but illegal to traffic. I could agree with that, but would you have a limit to how much one person could possess?
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Lemmy
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:53 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo: I could agree with that, but would you have a limit to how much one person could possess? Only if there was also a limit to how much alcohol one person could possess. 
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:01 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: 2Cdo 2Cdo: I could agree with that, but would you have a limit to how much one person could possess? Only if there was also a limit to how much alcohol one person could possess.  I guess with my acreage, I could then grow enough dope to keep me, my kids, and their kids stoned for quite some time!  Provided it doesn't spoil.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:09 pm
2Cdo 2Cdo: I guess with my acreage, I could then grow enough dope to keep me, my kids, and their kids stoned for quite some time!  Provided it doesn't spoil. That's why most refrigerators come with a freezer.
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:17 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: 2Cdo 2Cdo: I guess with my acreage, I could then grow enough dope to keep me, my kids, and their kids stoned for quite some time!  Provided it doesn't spoil. That's why most refrigerators come with a freezer. With my acreage, one season would require me to have a 10,000 square foot freezer!
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ASLplease
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:57 am
Lemmy Lemmy: 2Cdo 2Cdo: I could agree with that, but would you have a limit to how much one person could possess? Only if there was also a limit to how much alcohol one person could possess.  What do you mean? Alcohol only has a 12 hour shelf life 
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:54 pm
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:56 pm
Some old data:
"New statistics released in July 2004 suggest more than 10 million Canadians aged 15 or older have tried marijuana or hashish at least once. Under Canada's current laws, those 10 million Canadians are guilty of a crime. "
Would be even higher today.
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:56 pm
Thanks for the necro......have another toke...
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:57 am
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CommanderSock
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:35 am
Then Westmanguy you should write to your local Conservative MP, since the Cons want to make it an even greater crime.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:55 am
Kinda funny this thread got necroed now. Watching a progrma on pot right now and some rather interesting facts have come up. In Portugal where they decrimmed/legalized all drug useage, pot use in adults remained about the same, pot use among teens actually decreased a little bit, and use of the harder drugs fell significantly in all groups. Portugal then used the money that used to be spent incarcerating users and sellers, to open clinics offering help for those that wished to kick their addiction. In Holland, while pot is still technically illegal, the shops and such that sell it only get fines when the police decide to "raid" one. Curiously, the patrons aren't subject to any such penalties. However, they've seen the same trend when it comes to pot use in Holland as they've seen in Portugal. In both cases, there wasn't a huge explosion in drug use at all. Depending on the age group, useage either remained static or fell off a bit. What's been stopping either of these countries from going full legalization is the US forcfully reminding them (and Canada) about some dumb-assed agreement we all signed friggin' decades ago. After 32 years of anti-drug/pot legislation in the US, the percentage of people that smoke pot hasn't dropped one bit either. The difference is, Portugal and Holland actually MAKE money as a result, instead of blowing millions if not billions in some doomed war on drugs.
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CommanderSock
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:10 am
I know the liberals are no saints, and after 12 years of Chretien rule, we got nothing in terms of pot law changes. It took Martin to push it through.
But...conservative policy on MJ is absolutely non sequitur.
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