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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:27 am
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: Nationalize the Entire Oil Industry.
Make sure this bullshit never happens on this continent ever again. AGREED!! ..and all those billions in profits can go into reducing the debt, social programs, health care, and so on. We pay less taxes. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:36 am
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:45 am
Perhaps a small amount of plutonium going critical, or some other large explosion would seal the leak, causing far less environmental damage than the continuing flow currently is. A small tactical nuclear blast would produce enough heat to fuse the ocean floor, sealing off the leak. It would be the lesser evil for the greater good.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:47 am
I kinda laughed at the one exec that said if this didn't work, they had a backup plan. I thought this WAS the back up plan 
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:49 am
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:54 am
It would certainly seal off the shaft. The radiation would be quickly dissipated by ocean currents to safe levels, so I can't see much of a problem, except with some loopy Greens who protest mowing lawns.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:55 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Perhaps a small amount of plutonium going critical, or some other large explosion would seal the leak, causing far less environmental damage than the continuing flow currently is. A small tactical nuclear blast would produce enough heat to fuse the ocean floor, sealing off the leak. It would be the lesser evil for the greater good. Wow, my head did a flip turn and came back for another lap when I read that 
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:02 am
$1: And even worse, especially within that time frame, a Hurricane hits?
A hurricane might be a good thing. It will spread the oil, so nature can take its course with it (it's a natural product, remember), and you will probably never see anything again. When the Shetland Islands had the "Braer" stranded on their coast, that was exactly what happened. But, that well needs to be shut off, of course.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:10 am
Brenda Brenda: $1: And even worse, especially within that time frame, a Hurricane hits?
A hurricane might be a good thing. It will spread the oil, so nature can take its course with it (it's a natural product, remember), and you will probably never see anything again. When the Shetland Islands had the "Braer" stranded on their coast, that was exactly what happened. But, that well needs to be shut off, of course. A decent sized storm surge would carry the oil inland. That would be bad.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:11 am
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:13 am
What I do not understand, is why not the whole oil-rig industry (Shell, Exxon, whoever else you got out there) are in this, helping this clean up and leak-kill be a success. It is the whole industry that will be ruined (or at least get stricter rules...), so its in their interest too.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:26 am
Brenda Brenda: Did everyone forget the BP rented this rig? Why is the not-replacing of the vault their fault, or responsibility? I think they are doing a pretty good job, and I think the whole oil-industry should get their hands dirty on this one. Watch the 60 minutes interview from the Rig staffer I bet BP wished had died in the blast. Its clear BP is at fault. The rig owners staff told BP it would have to be done a certain way and BP told them to take a short cut, BP asked them to work harder, faster, more hours, this is when things are missed and mistakes occur. BP knew of the parts of the seal found brought up to the rig and told staff to push on. BP 5 years ago ignored safety rules which resulted in a blast at a plant and the highest ever fine for negligence to safety ever levied in US history. BP commissioned a Rig to be built and when the engineer claimed it was not being built safely and to specs he was fired. Now you have a point. The whole industry may be just as bad, I don't know for sure, maybe they have just gotten lucky so far.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:32 am
Brenda Brenda: What I do not understand, is why not the whole oil-rig industry (Shell, Exxon, whoever else you got out there) are in this, helping this clean up and leak-kill be a success. It is the whole industry that will be ruined (or at least get stricter rules...), so its in their interest too. Maybe its not in their interests for reasons known only to themselves, since they are not helping. Considering the White House is not moving to take over getting things done I wonder if they have any clue about what to do themselves.
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:33 am
Brenda Brenda: What I do not understand, is why not the whole oil-rig industry (Shell, Exxon, whoever else you got out there) are in this, helping this clean up and leak-kill be a success. It is the whole industry that will be ruined (or at least get stricter rules...), so its in their interest too. This will not ruin the industry. There is no grass roots hue and cry over this -no hundreds of thousands of protesters, no national righteous indignation. They need the oil and they know it. The rigs in the gulf and off the coast of California will stay, regardless of the grandstanding by politicians. It helps that this disaster is affecting a relatively poor part of the US as well. Imagine a massive leak coming ashore in California - ruining the coast along San Fran, San Diego and LA. Then, maybe the industry would be ruined, though even then, I doubt it. There will be stricter controls, but I doubt much stricter. In the end, they need the oil, and they are willing to risk a lot to get it.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:35 am
Gunnair Gunnair: Brenda Brenda: What I do not understand, is why not the whole oil-rig industry (Shell, Exxon, whoever else you got out there) are in this, helping this clean up and leak-kill be a success. It is the whole industry that will be ruined (or at least get stricter rules...), so its in their interest too. This will not ruin the industry. There is no grass roots hue and cry over this -no hundreds of thousands of protesters, no national righteous indignation. They need the oil and they know it. The rigs in the gulf and off the coast of California will stay, regardless of the grandstanding by politicians. It helps that this disaster is affecting a relatively poor part of the US as well. Imagine a massive leak coming ashore in California - ruining the coast along San Fran, San Diego and LA. Then, maybe the industry would be ruined, though even then, I doubt it. There will be stricter controls, but I doubt much stricter. In the end, they need the oil, and they are willing to risk a lot to get it. You got a point there
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