[Choban]

My whole point (whatever they are protesting) is that these families have a fundamental right to grieve their loved ones in private without anyone using their death to further their own cause, and yes to me at least (and hopefully a judge as well) their actions at these funerals constitute disuption of the greiving process and place undue added emotional strain on an already emotionally charged situation. I feel they should have some empathy for other human beings and if they want to protest homosexuality they are welcome to it somewhere else.

[andyt]

Yep, much as I despise them, I hope the court rules in the Phelps' favor. I think it's one of those price we have to pay situations, or in this case the price the family has to pay. I think the classy thing is to just ignore the Phelps, that way you don't give them what they want - attention.

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[andyt]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

I'm glad these mofo's are sanely banned from Canada.

Are they now? I'm pretty sure they've been to both Vancouver's and Toronto's pride parades. I've never been to one, but if I did, I would consider Fred Phelps and his brood to just be part of the entertainment. Laughing at people is one of the most powerful weapons we have. It's what women should do if a guy flashes them.

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[andyt]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

They've been to Canada a few times and often try to get in. But on several cases, they've been ordered to go back at the border. Some manage to sneak in, but they don't get to do nearly the amount of Canada tours as they'd like.

They planned to attend the funeral of the victim of the Bus Beheading incident. To say that it is "What Canada gets for legalizing Gay Marriage".

That's not entertainment, I'm glad we agreed not to allow them in for the sake of saying "Oh we allowed them in, we're good people for letting these people yell horrible things at us." None of that bullshit, stay in the USA Phelps.

http://www.godhatescanada.com

If not for the sane aspect, I also don't like Anti-Canadians in general living or entering this country.

Oh, we don't owe them entry. Free speech applies only to residents, or should. I have no problem banning the Phelp's from coming here.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Phelps is a diseased piss flap.

[sandorski]

andyt andyt:

Freedom of speech was specifically meant to allow people to be jackasses. The reason you can't yell fire in a crowded theater is because it will lead to physical harm to people stampeding out.

What's with you can Choban bringing up the war? The Phelps group are not anti-war protesters, they're religious nuts. They're protesting at these funerals because it gets them attention and people there are inclined to act decently. They used to protest pride parades, but my guess is they gave it up because the crowd would just have a laugh at them.

That is Incorrect, yet seems a popular interpretation these days. It certainly is allowed under "Free Speech", but it is not the reason why "Free Speech" is protected. It was meant to specifically protect Minority Opinion/View/Ideas from the Majority accepted Opinion/View/Ideas.

Sometimes the Majority is just Wrong. Protecting Free Speech allows the voice of the right(correct)to be heard and possibly allow Society to recognize it's error and/or how to correct their error.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Maybe the majority IS wrong from time to time. That doesn't give some foreigner the right to come here and tell us how we should run our country. I'd say Phelps has enough to worry about in his own backyard before he starts pissing in ours, which he has on numerous occassions. We have enough assholes and shit disturbers of our own without pin-headed, mental midgets like Phelps and his travelling inbred circus coming here and spewing their particular brand of horse shit.

[sandorski]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Maybe the majority IS wrong from time to time. That doesn't give some foreigner the right to come here and tell us how we should run our country. I'd say Phelps has enough to worry about in his own backyard before he starts pissing in ours, which he has on numerous occassions. We have enough assholes and shit disturbers of our own without pin-headed, mental midgets like Phelps and his travelling inbred circus coming here and spewing their particular brand of horse shit.

For sure. Phelps has nothing of Value to add. We have no obligation to allow anyone from outside the Nation in to just spout BS and Nonsense.

This kinda goes along with the Handgun Thread and One Posters asking for the Right to bring his/her Handgun into Canada.Our House, Our Rules. Abide by them, if we choose to let you in, or stay in your home.

[Bodah]

andyt andyt:

Yep, much as I despise them, I hope the court rules in the Phelps' favor. I think it's one of those price we have to pay situations, or in this case the price the family has to pay. I think the classy thing is to just ignore the Phelps, that way you don't give them what they want - attention.

Do you ever think perhaps their considering this for Phelps own well being and not freedom of speech ? Imagine being a grieving parent who loved their son dearly to hear these morons outside the service chanting your son is a fag and hopes he burns in hell, one day someone is going to run over some of theses dolts and kill one of them, it's not right. But you cant really blame them for the reaction.

It's probably also to avoid the situation of having to send someone to jail who understandably acted in extreme violent form of rage.

You can't disagree it's a time bomb waiting to happen, they've already been assaulted step 1. So why not diffuse it.

Pretty classless if you ask me, they can protest at any other place any other event but they choose funerals why do you think that is ? Their trying to incite people in the worst way.

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[Bodah]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

There are also people who follow these assholes and block the WBC from the victims of their hate speech. I can't remember what they're called, but they ride around on bikes and seem to just want respect for the troops. Good people. Non-violent.

Hell's Angels ?