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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:30 am
Whats the medical reason? a priapism ?
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:13 pm
Yeah, let's hang the fucker. It doesn't matter that he's plead guilty, served the time he was sentenced to and been defacto-deported from his home to live in exile for 30+ years. Why not just kill him? Double-jeopardy's already out the window. 
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:19 pm
He didn't serve his time. He ran away before he was sentanced.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:38 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: He didn't serve his time. He ran away before he was sentanced. Wrong.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:46 pm
$1: The facts here — that he raped and sodomized a 13-year-old girl in the Los Angeles home of Jack Nicholson — have not been challenged in court by Polanski. (Nicholson was away at the time.)
He gave the girl champagne and Quaaludes during a supposed photo shoot and he repeatedly refused her pleas to be let go. The entire incident lasted four hours.
His lawyers arranged a plea bargain that saw Polanski serve 46 days in prison for psychiatric observation after which he was to plead guilty to the single charge of "unlawful sexual intercourse."
Their assumption was that the 46 days would be the entire penalty.
Polanski had been allowed to go to Europe after his brief prison stint and was to return to Los Angeles for sentencing.
There has never been any corroboration from Los Angeles legal authories that the judge intended to change the plea bargain. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/09/3 ... champ.htmlFawning doccumentaries are not legal proof, by the way.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:51 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: $1: The facts here — that he raped and sodomized a 13-year-old girl in the Los Angeles home of Jack Nicholson — have not been challenged in court by Polanski. (Nicholson was away at the time.)
He gave the girl champagne and Quaaludes during a supposed photo shoot and he repeatedly refused her pleas to be let go. The entire incident lasted four hours.
His lawyers arranged a plea bargain that saw Polanski serve 46 days in prison for psychiatric observation after which he was to plead guilty to the single charge of "unlawful sexual intercourse."
Their assumption was that the 46 days would be the entire penalty.
Polanski had been allowed to go to Europe after his brief prison stint and was to return to Los Angeles for sentencing.
There has never been any corroboration from Los Angeles legal authories that the judge intended to change the plea bargain. http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/09/3 ... champ.htmlFawning doccumentaries are not legal proof, by the way. Yawn. Read a book.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:53 pm
Was it a book that Opra reccomended? Show your proof because the whole of the US Justice system, and that of the Swiss, seem to disagree with you.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:55 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Was it a book that Opra reccomended? Show your proof because the whole of the US Justice system, and that of the Swiss, seem to disagree with you. No. You do your own work on this one. I'm exhausted by the ignorance about Polanski's case on this forum. I'll just keep my mouth shut about him from now on, frustrating thought that will be. Call it a dodge if you like.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:01 pm
Brenda Brenda: $1: True enough, but just because you weren't charged or convicted doesn't mean your not guilty, look at OJ Simpson.
Yes it does. This is all assumption. You are innocent until proven guilty. In the eyes of the law sure, but if you murdered someone, went to court, got off, you'd still be guilty. Just not infront of a court.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:19 pm
Tricks Tricks: Brenda Brenda: $1: True enough, but just because you weren't charged or convicted doesn't mean your not guilty, look at OJ Simpson.
Yes it does. This is all assumption. You are innocent until proven guilty. In the eyes of the law sure, but if you murdered someone, went to court, got off, you'd still be guilty. Just not infront of a court. And the only one who knows for sure is the murderer. We do not know for sure if OJ is guilty (although I assume he is...) and no one but he will be able to tell us. And of course, he wont 
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:21 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Yeah, let's hang the fucker. It doesn't matter that he's plead guilty, served the time he was sentenced to and been defacto-deported from his home to live in exile for 30+ years. Why not just kill him? Double-jeopardy's already out the window.  In EXILE??? He only lived in the States for 9 years! 
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:00 pm
Ok Lemmy, spill the beans. Why should we not cheer that this old letch is going to jail?
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:24 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: ridenrain ridenrain: Was it a book that Opra reccomended? Show your proof because the whole of the US Justice system, and that of the Swiss, seem to disagree with you. No. You do your own work on this one. I'm exhausted by the ignorance about Polanski's case on this forum. I'll just keep my mouth shut about him from now on, frustrating thought that will be. Call it a dodge if you like. To paraphrase Henry Fonda's character in "12 Angry Men", they aren't listening and they never will. Facts burn like dry leaves in the full fury of a genuine Orwellian Two-Minute Hate.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:27 pm
Ok Thanos, so this allegation of drugging and sodomizing a 13 year-old girl is wrong?
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:39 pm
Nope. But Polanski made financial reparations to the vicitm and the vicitm is on record numerous times as saying that she wants the whole matter dropped and forgotten. A California prosecutor, who by definition are not limp-wristed liberal wimps, made a legitimate plea bargain with Polanski's defence that was unjustifiably reneged upon by an out-of-control publicity-seeking judge who, by the way, was later removed from the case by his own superiors for going beyond the scope of his powers and for committing a major miscarriage of justice. Polanski deserved whatever punishment he had coming his way by the terms of the agreement but there is absolutely no question whatsoever that the entire plea-agreement process that would have ended this case over thirty years ago had been compromised and railroaded by a judge who was operating according to his own self-serving agenda. These are the FACTS of the case that are not disputed by anyone, especially the prosecutor's office, as they happened.
No justice for the victim. No justice for Polanski. No justice for the citizens of California. And the only benefit so far has been to the hyperventilating members of the usual bloodthirsty "hang 'em high!" mob, to which real justice is, and always has been, the last priority in any situation like this.
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