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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:26 pm
 


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raydan raydan:
Yes, but Bill Shatner was fun to watch. The man had all the acting ability of a rock! :lol:

I'm watching "How William Shatner changed the world" right now.
Funny that even in a documentary, Bill get the girl at the end.


That's because Kirk/Bill will tap anything, any colour! :lol:[/quote]


You must have caught the "quote" problem from Brenda.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:28 pm
 


Just fixed it. :oops:


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:33 pm
 


2Cdo 2Cdo:
Just fixed it. :oops:

Yeah but now mine's still screwed up.

Where did I leave my triquarter?


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:39 pm
 


raydan raydan:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
Just fixed it. :oops:

Yeah but now mine's still screwed up.

Where did I leave my triquarter?


In the engine room with Scotty!


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:37 pm
 


Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:
It's one of those things with trying to redo the classics.... they've "reinvented" Bond in the past few films, and in that case, I didn't appreciate it as much. It's not that they didn't follow the same old recipe for making the film, it's that they lost some of the essence of Bond when they turned him basically into a Jason Bourne clone. It was Bond's nonchalant attitude and suaveness that made him notable, and they kind of lost that part of his character.

Taking the boring action scenes and tedious dialogue out of Star Trek, on the other hand, isn't a bad thing, because those are less about the style of the series and more about the original series just being often boring and tedious.


R=UP

The new Bond may be closer to Ian Flemings vision, but in any 'Bond' movie where he doesn't nail the hot chick, drive a cool car or have any sexy gadgets, he's just another Bourne clone to me too.

The new Trek however stays very close to the original, at least when it comes to the characters. Kirk is still a reckless, ass-kicking, green-alien nailing SOB, Bones is still a smartass, Scotty is still a technical wizard. The only big difference is that Spock is younger in these films and still trying to fight his human emotions, and occasionally they get the better of him. But those scenes are excellent and makes for a far better Spock than the automaton Nimoy played most of the time.

The difference in Trek this go round is that history changes a bit and things will play out differently in some ways.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:52 pm
 


Of topic but..
The Bourne films were the Bond knock offs, not the other way around.
It was the gimic-ridden, product placement fests of the Roger Moore years that took the Bond films from "realitic" to fantasy. The difference is like watching say, "from russia with love" and one of the "Flint " films.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:06 pm
 


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Undiscovered Country are you shitting me? That was god aweful! Now First Contact i'll grant (any movie that gives a nod to Roy Orbison can't be bad in my books) but c'mon what about Khan? That face Kirk made alone was killer!

Still metacritic is giving this a 85% as well and compare it as the best movie since Ironman. Now I have to see what the fuss is about!

How was Undiscovered Country 'god awful'? Just curious. Undiscovered country was pretty good. One of my favourites along with Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, Voyage home wasn't bad, pretty funny but that's it, and I even liked the Final Frontier as I saw it at a drive in. Generations and First contact were great, that other one after I can't seem to recall sucked and Nemesis was decent.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:19 pm
 


Correction, I was thinking Final Frontier rather than Undiscovered Country. That was the 2nd worst of the original trek movies right beside THE Motion Picture (which sucked balls and nearly killed the whole franchise). The emotional half brother of Spock was a horrible plot line and the culmination of 'god' was pure excrement. The only saving grace was the banter between the main characters but that could not save it from the main plot which was garbage. Undiscovered Country was meh.

So saw the movie... won't spoil it but its worth the watch. I'm glad they took it in a bold new direction.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:25 pm
 


Probably but I grew up on the Final Frontier, I even had the comic book of it. From a current pov it might be horrible on dialogue and plot but that's where cult classics are formed from. My opinion anyways. A lot of people hate Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome but that's my favourite Mad Max.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:06 pm
 


I mainly liked The Undiscovered Country because of Chang (Christopher Plummer's character). And the whole conspiracy thing really seemed to work.

Ugh... someone who's seen the new one has now compared it to that abortion of a movie called Transformers. Now I almost don't want to see it.

I agree that The Motion Picture and whatever one it was with "God" in it sucked balls. The Wrath of... KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!! was a good one.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:29 pm
 


Don't worry it isn't transformers redux. They actully have charcters with some depth except the antagonist which ends up being a sidestory to the intro of the cast.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 6:11 am
 


Ok, now who has seen Star Trek now. Can't hold my tonguie much longer... :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:18 am
 


canuckns canuckns:
Ok, now who has seen Star Trek now. Can't hold my tonguie much longer... :lol:

SHUT UP!!! :wink:

...you have to wait until it comes out in DVD.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:47 am
 


canuckns canuckns:
Ok, now who has seen Star Trek now. Can't hold my tonguie much longer... :lol:


Yeah, it was pretty awesome, wasn't it!


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:07 am
 


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canuckns canuckns:
Ok, now who has seen Star Trek now. Can't hold my tonguie much longer... :lol:


Yeah, it was pretty awesome, wasn't it!


Yeah it was and I am a huge Star Trek fan and thought they did a really good job. I had some major doubts going in, but was relived at the end. I hope they make a few more with this crew.


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