[sandorski]

I tried to warn y'all this would happen. Harper is toast.

[Canadaka]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

This is the website I follow for Canadian polling.

http://pollingreport.ca/

CKA has an agreement with that site to use there polls, I display one here
http://www.canadaka.net/sections/politics.php

But yes, this poll is just once small example of the growing trend. The Liberals are back, wether you like it or not

[Public_Domain]

[ryan29]

the prefered date of the next election question is very interesting , canadians maybe aren't as happy as they could be at the moment but the last thing they want is another election . the fact that half don't want one till the end of this term ( another 4 years away is very interesting )

and being from ontario and a frequent reader of polls i can tell you from experience that the liberals often lead here if not always yet those seemingly solid leads have not held during the elections and they have instead lost seats the last 3 of them here . so it might look good for them but in reality its nothing new and even dion held similar leads in ontario and could not gain any new seats cause of those polls , simply the numbers didn't hold during an actual vote .

[Lemmy]

ryan29 ryan29:

the prefered date of the next election question is very interesting , canadians maybe aren't as happy as they could be at the moment but the last thing they want is another election . the fact that half don't want one till the end of this term ( another 4 years away is very interesting )

With the stock market making some gains and the economic forecasts looking significantly brighter than 6 months ago, I suspect Harper will want to hold on as long as possible so he can play the "I navigated us out of the worst economic crisis in a generation" card. For success, the Liberals need to strike while the economy is slumping. Their best chance for success, IMHO, would be a 2009 election.

[mtbr]

Lemmy Lemmy:

ryan29 ryan29:

the prefered date of the next election question is very interesting , canadians maybe aren't as happy as they could be at the moment but the last thing they want is another election . the fact that half don't want one till the end of this term ( another 4 years away is very interesting )

With the stock market making some gains and the economic forecasts looking significantly brighter than 6 months ago, I suspect Harper will want to hold on as long as possible so he can play the "I navigated us out of the worst economic crisis in a generation" card. For success, the Liberals need to strike while the economy is slumping. Their best chance for success, IMHO, would be a 2009 election.

The Liberals are cheering for the recession to turn into a depression.


win at all cost who cares about Canadians.

[DerbyX]

If the Liberals had that attitude they never would have paid down the debt. They would have said to hell with Canadians and their future. I'm going to spend spend spend.

Instead they did what was right rather then what was popular.

Harper did not.

Sorry for your luck.

[hurley_108]

DerbyX DerbyX:

If the Liberals had that attitude they never would have paid down the debt. They would have said to hell with Canadians and their future. I'm going to spend spend spend.

Instead they did what was right rather then what was popular.

Harper did not.

Sorry for your luck.

[RUEZ]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Instead they did what was right rather then what was popular.

Harper did not.

Sorry for your luck.

[RUEZ]

Canadaka Canadaka:

But yes, this poll is just once small example of the growing trend. The Liberals are back, wether you like it or not

Oh I wouldn't get to cocky. The Liberals were leading the polls when Harper won his first election against Martin.

[SigPig]

Canadaka Canadaka:

The Liberals are back, wether you like it or not

It would be nice to finally have more then one legitimate choice in the next election. As I saw it, the Cons were the only one last time with Dion being a completely useless noob. It will be good to have some real competition again.

[SigPig]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Instead they did what was right rather then what was popular.

Ya because paying the debt was SO unpopular

And Harper did what people wanted when he agreed to throw money at failing coporations. People demanded it, he did it because they wanted "something" to be done even if it didn't make sense.

[DerbyX]

No they weren't. In fact on this site alone some were predicting a CPC majprity.

The truth is that although this trend is quite welcome history has shown that it can reverse itself in a matter of months.

They go up and down almost day to day WRT whatever hot button scandal/news piece hits the media.

Liberal numbers went south when the RCMP over stepped its bounds and leaked the income trust report, an event for which Goodale was cleared of well after the fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Combi ... dnelxn.png

Note. The graph isn't appearing properly. Left side of the graph is dated 28-jun-04 and the right side is election day, 23-Jan-06

[DerbyX]

SigPig SigPig:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Instead they did what was right rather then what was popular.

Ya because paying the debt was SO unpopular

And Harper did what people wanted when he agreed to throw money at failing coporations. People demanded it, he did it because they wanted "something" to be done even if it didn't make sense.

Actually yes it is. Its about the least partisan option a government can make. Think about it. They spent 100 billion paying down the debt. Thats 100 billion they could have given to health care, education, infrastructure, defence, or out and out tax breaks.

Since nobody sees any immediate benefit to debt repayment the government gets little political benefit.

Harper on the other hand decided he was going to do what he thinks will get him votes.

We always hear about how the conservatives are so fiscally minded that they won't run deficits like this but the truth is they can and will. Harper has sure proven that.

[SigPig]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Actually yes it is. Its about the least partisan option a government can make. Think about it. They spent 100 billion paying down the debt. Thats 100 billion they could have given to health care, education, infrastructure, defence, or out and out tax breaks.

Since nobody sees any immediate benefit to debt repayment the government gets little political benefit.

People wanted to see a reversal following the policies of debt and spend of Mulroney. So don't try to say it had no political benefit. The Liberals CAMPAIGNED on that very issue when they were elected in 1993. And don't try and claim that most people were really concerned about the funding of programs because how much was being used for the debt. Most Canadians thought it was the right idea and supported it.

$1:

Harper on the other hand decided he was going to do what he thinks will get him votes.

You people need to stop acting like Harper is the only dirty politician in the bunch. They are all the same. As I said, at the time promising to, and eventually paying down the debt was done because it was popular at the time and helped to grow the Liberals vote count.
I agreed with the policy as well because the debt had become too large and we neeed to stabilize our books. But dont kid yourself into thinking they did it out of the goodness of their hearts. As a way of protecting the poor Canadian public from the soulless and evil conservatives.